What more can we do ?

lopkinfop · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:34

Chimerical said:
Because the rest seem full of ignorance (in general). I wouldn't assume that a bunch of internet nerds know anything at all about parenthood and being a good parent so the fact that the OP is asking 'us' how to successfully deal with his child is questionable.

seen as this is general discussion i suggest you go back to what ever hardware section you deem worthy of your superior knowledge. if we take a poll i bet quite a large amount of people that use this forum have children or some sort of sensible advice, i don`t think its a bad thing to ask others opinions on matters which you have been unable to sort out. who would be better to ask this question of? the OPs parents? the next door neighbours? people at work? all of those people wouldn`t have any more valid responses than the people on here.

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:36

Chimerical said:
Wrong again. Spec me a girlfriend/house/car/pigeon threads don't fall into the same category as raising your own child ffs.

Christ, this is someone's son we're talking about and its been trivialised to "OMG KICK HIM OUT" idiot responses. Morons on a forum are not a good place to go for advice. The fact that this is even a resort for the OP is a joke and he should be able to sort this out himself.

Is it really? So he should sort it out himself? because no one has ever had these sort of problems before? perhaps he thought someone might have something reasonable to say other than, LOL MY KIDS ARE GREAT.

Azagoth · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:37

Chimerical said:
Morons on a forum are not a good place to go for advice.

I wonder how many of these so called "morons" will remember your post when you need some help with a computer related problem that may arise?

Chimerical · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:38

lopkinfop said:
seen as this is general discussion i suggest you go back to what ever hardware section you deem worthy of your superior knowledge. if we take a poll i bet quite a large amount of people that use this forum have children or some sort of sensible advice, i don`t think its a bad thing to ask others opinions on matters which you have been unable to sort out. who would be better to ask this question of? the OPs parents? the next door neighbours? people at work? all of those people wouldn`t have any more valid responses than the people on here.

Yes they would. In fact, the OP should be mature enough to deal with an 18 year old sensibly. Maybe he's on here because he lacks certain skills which another parent may have? Who knows.

Also, I don't understand the 'superior knowledge' accusation. I haven't actually offered any advice and would be disappointed if I did and it was taken seriously. All I'm questioning is the existance of this thread in the first place.

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:40

All i was questioning was your opinion that dmpoole's comment was the best advice he was going to get, considering it didn't actually contain ANY advice whatsoever. Unless you were offering him as a potential foster parent.

Chimerical · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:41

Azagoth said:
I wonder how many of these so called "morons" will remember your post when you need some help with a computer related problem that may arise?

Well its a general term and more to do with the responses and one I'd happily apply to myself on occassion. Also people on here appear to be very knowledgable about computer related problems and the ones that help me out differ from the usual suspects posting in this thread.

Does the OP really want advice from someone like me on this subject?

No

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:42

So why are you offering it then?

Chimerical · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:43

8balled said:
All i was questioning was your opinion that dmpoole's comment was the best advice he was going to get, considering it didn't actually contain ANY advice whatsoever. Unless you were offering him as a potential foster parent.

Dmpoole's post wasn't advice admittedly but it was better for it. Fact is, I really hope the OP doesn't take the comments in here literally and actually start smashing his son's Xbox up or something.

8balled said:
So why are you offering it then?

I'm not. Where have I offered advice?

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:46

Well you've admitted you have nothing to offer and put that up as some form of evidence that the rest of us have no valid opinion or advice, i'd say that counts as advice.

Chimerical · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:50

8balled said:
Well you've admitted you have nothing to offer and put that up as some form of evidence that the rest of us have no valid opinion or advice, i'd say that counts as advice.

Okay, here's my advice. The OP should get this thread closed and talk to his own son like a normal human being would and not post on here about it.

Some of the things written in here are pathetic.

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:51

I agree, like gloating about how great your kids are in a thread where someone is asking for advice. Hardly post of the year is it.

And one you fully endorsed might i add

Chimerical · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:52

8balled said:
I agree, like gloating about how great your kids are in a thread where someone is asking for advice. Hardly post of the year is it.

I'm sorry but this is much worse:

Oxy said:
Why was the baby not aborted? Is he still with the mother? I assume she is going it alone and being a single mum. He can't be with her if he is geeking it up on xbox for 12 hours a day.

Best thing you can do is dump him inside the Armed Forces Careers Office.

And one you fully endorsed might i add

Yeah, have I reversed my opinion? No, I still 'endorse' it.

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:53

yes but i bet the difference is that post was dismissed by everybody who read it.

Chimerical · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:55

8balled said:
yes but i bet the difference is that post was dismissed by everybody who read it.

I dunno, no-one seems to have ridiculed it. Thus I assume agreement.

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:57

assume away my friend.

lopkinfop · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:58

everyone knows (or should know) that you will always get silly responses but if the OP gets a few ideas from this thread that they can try then its worth it

Azagoth · 25 Apr 2009 at 20:58

I'm playing :-

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 21:01

But he only has 3 treasures, i have 5.

Fuzz · 25 Apr 2009 at 21:17

CAN WE GET BACK TO THE QUESTION IN HAND PLEASE and stop ****ing bickering amongst yourselves. You are wasting my bandwidth.

Right.
The OP sounds like one of those parents who pretty much do everything for their kid.
The reason I say this is I have one of those parents.
I am a lazy git when it comes down to it, but sure as the sun rises, breakfast will be made and dinner will be cooked without fail and without even asking. and I don't pay a penny in rent. She's always going on about how much the groceries cost, how much washing she has to do, how much she has to tidy up.
hey, here's an idea.... stop cooking and cleaning and tidying MY CRAP up for me and I might learn something from it!!!

The kicking out at 9-5 sounds the best option in this thread, obviously you don't want him to "end up on the streets" should you kick him out permanently and you are worried he will resent you for it.
The worst thing you did was take him back after you managed to do the deed the first time round..

It's like the parents of spoilt kids in supermarkets.
I want the sweets mummy
NO
I want the sweets mummy
NO
I want the sweets mummy
NO
I want the sweets mummy

Oh go on then, just the one..

The kids know they can get away with it because you cave in eventually.

Ever heard of being cruel to be kind?

8balled · 25 Apr 2009 at 21:35

nokinidea said:
The worst thing you did was take him back after you managed to do the deed the first time round..

Going to have to disagree with that, if he was so unruly and disobedient then kicking him out is just giving him free reign to do as he pleases, it's rare that someone in that situation comes out of it sparkling.