What pump?
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It says in the product description that you can fit a DDC directly to it.
So would this one fit?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...3.2-pwm-elite-plexi-incl.-pump-wc-909-ek.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...3.2-pwm-elite-plexi-incl.-pump-wc-909-ek.html
Soldato
You won't need the pump top, just the pump. So save a couple of quid and just get the pump body, for example
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-ddc-3.2-pwm-12v-pwm-pump-wc-517-ek.html
The issue with that though is DDCs need some kind of air flow over them because they get warm, and the plastic body is a bit of a heat trap. So you'll need to get a heatsink body
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-ddc-heatsink-housing-black-wc-484-ek.html
Now that's a top-end DDC pump (18W, PWM controlled). Depending on your loop you could get something like this
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alphacool-laing-ddc310-single-edition-black-wc-0aa-ac.html
That's a static speed, 10W version with heatsink included. I have this one and it does the job for 1 360 rad, 1 120 rad, 1 GPU and CPU.
Note that I'm just linking to Overclockers because of forum rules, there are options out there for a bit cheaper, just remember that all the DDC pump bodies are made by Laing, it's just the pump tops that are different. Since you won't need a top you should be OK in grabbing the best priced DDC, just don't forget the heatsink too.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-ddc-3.2-pwm-12v-pwm-pump-wc-517-ek.html
The issue with that though is DDCs need some kind of air flow over them because they get warm, and the plastic body is a bit of a heat trap. So you'll need to get a heatsink body
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-water-blocks-ek-ddc-heatsink-housing-black-wc-484-ek.html
Now that's a top-end DDC pump (18W, PWM controlled). Depending on your loop you could get something like this
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/alphacool-laing-ddc310-single-edition-black-wc-0aa-ac.html
That's a static speed, 10W version with heatsink included. I have this one and it does the job for 1 360 rad, 1 120 rad, 1 GPU and CPU.
Note that I'm just linking to Overclockers because of forum rules, there are options out there for a bit cheaper, just remember that all the DDC pump bodies are made by Laing, it's just the pump tops that are different. Since you won't need a top you should be OK in grabbing the best priced DDC, just don't forget the heatsink too.
Thank you.
I have 2x360 and 1x240 radiators so I think I would need something with a bit of power. The Pantecks Glacier pump compartment is a sort of heat sink that you screw to the top of the pump. Would that do or do you think I should buy a 3rd party heatsink like the one you linked?
I have 2x360 and 1x240 radiators so I think I would need something with a bit of power. The Pantecks Glacier pump compartment is a sort of heat sink that you screw to the top of the pump. Would that do or do you think I should buy a 3rd party heatsink like the one you linked?
Soldato
From what I can see on that Phanteks res the heatsink doesn't actually cover the DDC itself so I'd suggest getting a heatsink body for it. And maybe you can flow some air over it too which will help. The DDC should be fine for your loop, but it might be worth getting the big 18W version like the EK one just to be sure, you can always slow it down a little using PWM.
Yes I will be getting the heatsink and it will be over a fan. I was looking at the DDC pumps on amazon and someone mention they had bought the pump I linked up above and it did not fit in their Glacier as the impeller was a fraction to big. Is this possible? I thought they would all be the same size.
Soldato
Probably not a proper DDC then, They should all be the same size because they're all made by Laing. There are other pumps that have the same 62x62mm dimensions and look like DDCs, but are not. EK's SPC for example.
You could always drop Phanteks a line and ask them if they have DDC pump recommendations for best fit.
You could always drop Phanteks a line and ask them if they have DDC pump recommendations for best fit.
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Overclockers?
I can't seem to find one on overclockers. It's the first place I looked.
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Google it.
First thing I tried. There doesn't seem to be any info out there on this. Daft isn't it? Seems the only way to get the correct spare O-ring is to buy a new pump.
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EK have their own online shop.
Soldato
Why so many rads?
With a i9 and a 2080ti extreme I went for extreme cooling.
Soldato
Plenty of places to buy o rings....
https://www.polymax.co.uk/o-rings/rubber-nbr-oring/
https://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/Seals-O-Ring-Seals-NITRILE-O-Rings/c19_4501_4705/index.html
Theres two for a quick example. Remove the o ring from your DDC, measure and order from sites above
How important are heatsinks for DDC pumps? I ask as I have 2 that have been in my system for 10 - 15 years, neither have a heatsink and only one has had a fan blowing on it for the last six months or so. Not had an issue with either and both are still going strong.
EDIT - Just googled Laing DDC o ring size and multiple sites appeared listing a o ring to fit the DDC. Cant link them though as they are competitors.
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Plenty of places to buy o rings....
https://www.polymax.co.uk/o-rings/rubber-nbr-oring/
https://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/Seals-O-Ring-Seals-NITRILE-O-Rings/c19_4501_4705/index.html
Theres two for a quick example. Remove the o ring from your DDC, measure and order from sites above
How important are heatsinks for DDC pumps? I ask as I have 2 that have been in my system for 10 - 15 years, neither have a heatsink and only one has had a fan blowing on it for the last six months or so. Not had an issue with either and both are still going strong.
EDIT - Just googled Laing DDC o ring size and multiple sites appeared listing a o ring to fit the DDC. Cant link them though as they are competitors.
Ha! Thanks. My mistake was putting EK water blocks and/or water pump o-ring in my search. As soon as I entered Laing DDC o ring I got a ton of hits. Thanks very much.
As for the heat-sink thing. My rez/pump combo comes with a heat sink for the pump. Seeing as they are air cooled I would imagine having a heatsink as well as air flow are essential to prolong the life of the pump. There again it could depend on if you have the pumps speed controlled or just let it rip at full revs.
Soldato
Yeah I can understand wanting to prolong the life it's just I hear people saying you need a heatsink and air flow etc yet mine have both been running full pelt for 10 -15 years with neither and show no signs of giving up anytime soon. Maybe I've just been very lucky.