What raid controler

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need some help from people who know about raid controlers.

i need a 4 or 8 port hardware sata11 controler to work on asus motherboard (m3a79-t) in a pci express slot at 8x running on vista 64.

i have been looking but cant seem to find may that will suit my needs

any help would be welcome
 
just looking to run raid 0 but want something faster than onboard stuff

A (true) hardware SATA RAID card will not be any faster than the onboard raid controller on that motherboard (for RAID0), really only needed for the likes of RAID5/6 (for parity calculations), so might as well save your money...
 
well i had 2 drives in raid0 and was getting an average off 106 mbs and when i added another 2 to make it 4 drives in raid0 it only went to 120 mbs average.

i thought it must be down to onboard software bottleneck.??
 
If you want faster disk performance I would recommend you upgrade your actual disks to faster disks rather than add additional disks.

Adding additional disks to a RAID 0 array results in higher bandwidth (data stripes can be read simultaneously from more disks) which doesnt necessary translate into sizable improved performance.
 
N1S, jbloggs is right that you won't get more speed from a controller as is inph.

However, that said, on nearly all motherboards for consumer and enthusiast use, The 'southbridge' or Controller Hub (ICHxR - Intel) type RAID implementations are budget, and about the slowest you can get. Also, on most implementations, will sit on a PCI bus (not great).

A fair bit of the work is done in the driver (ie main CPU) rather than offloaded in firmware on the raid controller.

This is why the more discs you added the lower the performance seemed to be, it's not he onboard software as such, but the way that the controller is implemented.

The CPU in your case is now loaded with extra drives, all hanging on the controller which doesn't in itself manage the data queing that a controller card would handle. (this is why consumer drive manyfaturers intergratede NCQ functions into their drives to try and overcome this).

Adaptec controllers are what i'd recommend, they're not cheap but its the weapon of choice for Dell, HP and IBM Enterprise Server solutions.

They run at x8 in the PCI-E slot, and have onboard ram themselves, so that with the native NCQ on the drive should give the perception of noticable speed. They also have drivers which are Vista x64 native.

Entry level there is the 4 port 2405 or the more expensive 3405 or 3805.

Their customer support is great, and you have someone that can hold a decent conversation at the other end rather than reading from a script.

Hope this helps.
 
The 'southbridge' or Controller Hub (ICHxR - Intel) type RAID implementations are budget, and about the slowest you can get. Also, on most implementations, will sit on a PCI bus (not great).

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there's actually very little processing in striped arrays so moving to a dedicated controller for this, unless you're talking more than 5 or 6 drives is pointless.

for arrays with redundancy such as raid 5/6/10 etc then sure a controller is desirable as write speeds will be accelerated greatly as IO's are performed by the card and you get better protection from potential failure through BBU's and generally more stable operation.

i wouldn't call Intel southbridges budget though, for most home users they're perfectly acceptable and news flash the last few iterations of ICH run on PCI-E lanes.
 
the motherboard uses amd sb750 not sure how it compares to intel ones but i have tried various drivers and setups and none off them have come close to what it should be for read and write on raid 0
 
well i had 2 drives in raid0 and was getting an average off 106 mbs and when i added another 2 to make it 4 drives in raid0 it only went to 120 mbs average.

i thought it must be down to onboard software bottleneck.??

m3a79t-deluxe, 720be, 2xWD 500GB blacks (WD5001AALS) RAID0, XP32 = Avg. 140, burst 295. So the bottleneck is not the controller.
 
it is the deluxe motherboard with amd 9950be chip running 2.8GHz.
i had 2 ocz ssd v2 in raid0 which i had some bother with and gave up in the end and at the moment i have 4 X seagate barracuda drives in raid0. i would just like to get rid off this bottleneck.

thanks for all the help so far.
 
The problem is not with the actual comtroller I would think, but how you set it up...

What OS are you using?

Did you follow the guide on page 4-47/48/49 of your manual?

You initially set it up with 2, then added another 2 at a later time, so it would seem that this is possibly the problem; what did you do to add the second 2 HDDs?

In the RAID BIOS are all 4 HDD part of the RAID0 array, also in the RAID cont. software in the OS, do they all show up as party of the array?
 
it is set up correctly as far as i know, when i added the other 2 identical drives i re-done the raid with a fresh install on vista 64 home premium. i have been using raid0 on all of my pc's for many years and this is the first board that seems slow.
 
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