what should I do to broaden my shoulders?

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Originally posted by Gilly
He's too young for weights. You shouldn't start intensive weights until you're at least 18 IMO, 21 is even more sensible.

why's that then? 16 is generally a good age to start (most gyms will allow you in at 16, younger and you usually require parental consent)

* goes off the find the pic of Brock @ 16
 
Yeh, free weights is the way to go, im 16, and i started going up the gym about 8months ago, doing small amounts at first. But over the last 2 months or so have started serious training and have seen vast improvments. In 8 months gone from 13stone to 15st 7lbs.

Deffinetly go to the gym if u want to get bigger shoulders, start light and the go heavier as you get more experianced and stronger.

Here are a few shoulder Exercises:


Behind the nex Presses

Purpose - To train the front and side delts

Military Presses

Purpose - To train front and side delts.

Standing Lateral raises

Purpose - To develop the outside head of the deltoid.

Front Dumbell Raises

Purpose - To develop the front head of the delts

Upright Rows

Purpose - To devlop the traps and front delts

Dumbell Shrugs

Purpose - To develp the traps

Barbell Shrugs

Purpose - To develop the traps
 
age isnt much of a problem tbh gilly, its more about understanding HOW to lift. learning correct form is vital, and if that can be learnt from an early age then great! if you can get down the gym it will really help, just stick to basic exercises like military press, incline bench press, dips and shrugs...all of those will hit your shoulders :)

tip for shrugs - dont role your shoulders or you'll end up damaging your rotary cuff! not good!

ps. for anyone whos just joining a gym stay away from the smith machine :p or ill send oddjob down to clobber you
 
Originally posted by Kanes
why's that then? 16 is generally a good age to start (most gyms will allow you in at 16, younger and you usually require parental consent)

* goes off the find the pic of Brock @ 16

Because you're still developing until you're 21, you're at less risk at that point. more risk at 18 and lots of risk at 16 if lifting lots.

Bones aren't fully formed and are still comparatively soft. This leads to huge problems later in life (when only 28-30 sometimes).

Arthritis and christallisation of the bones can happen, and if I ever have kids they will NOT weightlift before their bodies are ready.

And whoever this Brock is, I aint bothered. I would guess he's a wrsetler given that I've never heard of him? Even so, I won't allow any of my young relatives or my children to lift before they're ready. And neither should gymns.
 
That's rubbish. Under 16 is too young to train. I've read numerous books and websites which suggest it is safe to train over 16 providing you train properly. Even my doctor said it was fine.

I and many friends starting training at 16 and within a year I made substantial gains unfortuately through food poisioning I lost it all. I've never had any problems many years on.

Its common sense that starting bodybuilding at a age too young is not good for the body's growth. The right time for teen bodybuilding comes sooner for some than others. Its usually best to start training at the age of 16.

But its never too young to begin fitness work and health education. Young teens can develop a good foundation through and cardio work, and once at the age of 16 to 17, commence a suitable workout program.
 
Don't tell me that what I'm saying is rubbish when I have first hand experience :rolleyes:

Where have I said fitness work was bad? I've suggested rowing and swimming in this very thread.
 
Originally posted by Gilly
Don't tell me that what I'm saying is rubbish when I have first hand experience.

Because it is. A common misconception that people think training at 16 is bad for you, its pub talk ;)

Again the professionals will tell you if you follow correct form you will be fine. Doesn't matter what age you are if you act like an idiot in the gym you will damage yourself.
 
Anyone see the youngster in the latest Loaded Mag??

I think he is 12 or much yonger and the wee guy has a body of a bodybuilder, bloody 6 pack etc, a must see.

His hold man is a bodybuilder so what he eats and trains, the cub does similar but at a reduced quantity obviously.
 
Originally posted by Gilly
Don't tell me that what I'm saying is rubbish when I have first hand experience :rolleyes:

Where have I said fitness work was bad? I've suggested rowing and swimming in this very thread.

not necessarily, everyone is not the same

many medical people seem to think 16 is fine, schools will even allow weight training for 16 and up. It very much depends on the individual
 
Originally posted by Kanes
not necessarily, everyone is not the same

many medical people seem to think 16 is fine, schools will even allow weight training for 16 and up. It very much depends on the individual

It does depend on the individual. But I was talking about risks. If you're not suited to it (and I know nothing about this guy) you can do some REAL damage
 
Originally posted by Gilly
It does depend on the individual. But I was talking about risks. If you're not suited to it (and I know nothing about this guy) you can do some REAL damage

Obviously there are risks with anything everybody knows that. Everytime I go to the gym I'm at risk of injury. But if your 16 and over there are no risks of long term damage if you train and warm properly and use correct form otherwise schools, medical people, books, websites, etc, etc would say not to train. I agree there are 16yr olds who are small, but using light weights properly is fine.

My advice is join a good gym and see what the fitness supervisors have to say.
 
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I agree fully with Gilly (I know, it's getting scary now).

When I used to swim for my county and up to national trial level, we were basically under pressure to do weights. We'd turn up at events and find ourselves in the company of some rel athletes. Or so we thought, the good coaches basically banned weights, the ramifications just aren't worth it, I certainly wouldn't want the associated spine and joint problems nor to find myself not reaching my natural potential. All through training before the body was ready for it.

Ultimately people will do what they want, a good gym should advise against heavy weights if you're not old enough or don't look like you should be doing something.
 
Thanks for the advice - plenty for me to think about. The reason I've waited until I'm 16 before I work out is so that I don't damage or injure myself. I'm just gonna take things slowly and only do a little at a time - I'll probably join a gym as well.
 
Originally posted by Zombie Monkey
Thanks for the advice - plenty for me to think about. The reason I've waited until I'm 16 before I work out is so that I don't damage or injure myself. I'm just gonna take things slowly and only do a little at a time - I'll probably join a gym as well.

You wont damage anything if you use correct form and dont jump straight to heavy weights. Work your way up. Im 16 and would consider myself pretty strong for my age BUT only after building myself up, i have also researched into correct form/nutriton and how to deal with injuries.

Happy lifting:D
 
I've noticed now that since I've put on muscle in areas where I never had muscle before, I can easily hurt myself if I moved funny/too quick etc.

a lot of it is down to not warming up but you can't warm up if your just doing normal every day things.

Pains occur especially around the chest/peck area.
 
Originally posted by Scream
I've noticed now that since I've put on muscle in areas where I never had muscle before, I can easily hurt myself if I moved funny/too quick etc.

a lot of it is down to not warming up but you can't warm up if your just doing normal every day things.

Pains occur especially around the chest/peck area.

What?? are you saying that putting muscle on has caused you to injure yourself more in everyday tasks??? :confused: :confused: You MUST be doing something wrong
 
Originally posted by Scream
I've noticed now that since I've put on muscle in areas where I never had muscle before, I can easily hurt myself if I moved funny/too quick etc.

a lot of it is down to not warming up but you can't warm up if your just doing normal every day things.

Pains occur especially around the chest/peck area.

your training wrong then.
 
Originally posted by noob
But if your 16 and over there are no risks of long term damage if you train and warm properly and use correct form otherwise schools, medical people, books, websites, etc, etc would say not to train.

The textbooks are full of examples of how you can hurt yourself, and cause long-term damge to your body through weight training. I partially agree with Gilly, that pre-adult training should be carefully supervised. This isn`t to say that it can`t be done, just that you cant expect your body to be happy about the extra pressure it is being put under in addition to general growth.

Originally posted by oddjob62
What?? are you saying that putting muscle on has caused you to injure yourself more in everyday tasks??? You MUST be doing something wrong

The more muscle mass you have, the more fibres there are to injure. I think it is often the case that incorrect training (particularly isolation through machines) can affect the coordination of muscle groups - hence increasing the chance on injury. There have been a number of cases of professional athletes injuring themselves in such innocuous ways (ironing, changing TV channels etc.). Equally you find many skinny people who never have muscular injuries - they have only core muscle that is hard to tear.
 
Originally posted by oddjob62
urrr did i not say


not "you are lying"

That's why i stear clear of machines as much as possible.

:confused:

Not in any of the bits I read;)

Just pointing out that even professional athletes (who are generally properly supervised) can do themselves such mischief. Big weight training is by no means the ultimate solution to strength and size.
 
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