What to do with a drug addict

out side my work inbetween 10-11am and 5-6pm you see 20 or so guys girls waiting for there drop ..there messed up really bad ..
police have been informed over 10 times they do nothing pic's of the dealer have been took and forwarded to the police they again do nothing ..

the best thing you can do for your brother and mum... get him locked up or you lock him up will take a couple of weeks him screaming in pain for lack of the drug as he comes down ..
but your mum will feel terrible ..
he like so many our a lost cause and you know your mums not going to press charges ..
put him in the back of a car while he is off his head drive him 300 miles away and let him go ..you will prob not see him again
change your mums phone number ..
 
Maybe get your mum to look up families anonymous and find a meeting. Good way to find people who are going through the same thing and learning how to deal with it
 
Have you reported it to the police?

You could try and report it to the police and say that because of the situation your mum is a vulnerable person(old/threats to kill). The problem with this is that your mum sounds like she will be protective of her addict son and may not be happy with police involvement - but the police may overlook that as it's what a vulnerable person would do.

If the police won't help either you take it on yourself to 'teach' your brother a lesson or let it continue until your mother comes to her senses.

A horrible situation all round.. :(
 
Eventually there will be no money left, then what? The drug habit won't go away when the money dries up. He'll just start stealing from someone else. It needs dealing with in one way or another before he causes even more damage.
 
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Has he been to prison as that's where he is headed. He's just going to end up homeless or die of an overdose or as I said in and out of prison.

He's probably brain damaged, he won't ever be able to get a proper nights sleep again, no chance or turning up on time to a job.

Don't know what the options are though. Maybe some charity detox place, the only hope is finding a path to get him into work and sticking too it.
 
The only two questions that matter are, what made him start down this path and does he want help?

It's a cliche but only he can help himself. If he won't then he needs to stay away from your mother and he needs to be told this.
 
Very sorry for your situation but you need to break contact with your mum and brother and make her see she's only enabling him. What happens when her money runs out? He'll just move on to the next person who has money and she'll be flat broke about to enter retirement and he'll still be an addict.
 
I can only sympathise op,

We've been going through a similar situation with my sister for the last 25 years. Its taken the whole 25 years but recently my mum has started pushing back, ignoring calls etc but my sister is so entitled, she thinks its outrageous at the age of 36 that my mother, who my sister has attacked, lied to constantly, stolen from and screamed at on an almost daily basis has told her to sort her life out and she doesn't have money to give her.

Me and my partner moved in with my mum while we saved for a deposit, of course its not fair because why cant she move in? She doesn't understand that she cant be trusted and my mum is getting older now and cant cope with the mental turmoil my sister causes.

Her ex boyfriend ended up in prison following a string of burglaries and it was the best thing that ever happened to him, he got help and has moved away from all the low life's who might drag him back down. I wish this would happen to her because she'll never change and she just ruins whoever's life she is involved in.:mad::mad:
 
He wanted £350 of my mum today, or he was going to be beat up, don't know if she gave it to him. I have passed that families annon site to her. Thanks, She needs to get that is tough love time.

I am dreading bumping into him, as I want to flatten the little ****
 
This kind of thing happened to my mother about 10 years ago...

I found out my mother meant to got into about 50k of debt due to giving money all the time to her grand daughter it was only after her husband died that I found out about this as she told my sister about it...

The only thing that really stopped this was when my mother retired from work so didn't have any more money to give her..
 
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Sounds like a person i know from my way, a lot of people have said about taking him up north to leave him there and hopes he cant find he way back,
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I like this idea. :p

A road trip to somewhere along the remoter parts of the A836 and then left in a lay-by perhaps, in Midwinter! :D

In all seriousness, If he can get himself together enough to get back home from there, he might be worth putting in some effort for, Otherwise. You do not chose your relatives and there really has to come a point where blood loyalty has to run out! :(

(Harsh I know, but ultimately, OP has a responsibility to both himself and the rest of his family not to let the "Black Sheep" destroy them all! Which he undoubtedly will do if left unchecked! :()
 
I was going to go a with a long winded post of personal experience, but it was sharing more than I was comfortable with.

I honestly believe that it is impossible to help somebody who hasn't hit rock bottom and hasn't taken the first steps to help themselves - but that would pretty useless advice.

So another suggestion - are there rehab charities? Or any way you could get him into rehab? It might not stick, but unless you can somehow force your mum to cut contact its probably the best hope. The Jeremy Kyle show some sometimes does it for guests, but you'd have to sit through the torture of have you and your family on TV, and go through that ringer as the price of admission, if they even wanted to go with your story.

I feel for you, its a horrific situation.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Start waging an actual war on drugs, then. Go round and shoot dead every drug user you can find. Whether a crack whore, dope fiend or just a casual user, blow their heads clean off and leave them there to rot. This leaves a very clear message and removes the market for drug dealers.
In parallel, stop seizing drugs, intercepting shipments and imprisoning dealers. Destroy them outright the moment you find them.
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What in blazes? Blowing people heads off? Unless you haven't realised killing people is wrong.

And killing people just because they want to have enjoy themselves? That's just another matter.

The whole problem here is MONEY. So what if a drug user wants to use drugs, you think you have a good enough reason to literally KILL anyone who wants an alternate state of mind? What about that drug known as alcohol which kills the most people out of any drug? should they be killed too or do you have double standards too? in that legal drugs which aid divide and conquer are OK but anyone caught smoking the peace herb cannabis should be shot?

Cannot believe how wrong your post is. Probably the most obvious load of nonsense I've ever read on OcUK. And pointless too because drugs will end up killing the person anyway, so why on earth should society have to kill them?


Meanwhile in the real world the only way to remove the market for drug dealers is to remove the artificial inflation of the price bought on by Law itself. Cocaine is about £500 per kilo to produce and ship, same as most vegetables and vegetable extracts, if not cheaper. But the moment it lands in the UK it's magically worth £30,000 per kilo?

THAT's where the criminal market is coming from, NOT that drug users haven't been murdered. Good grief.
 
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I've no experience in this but consider black box thinking...

Why is he addicted to heroin etc? Did he lose is job, get in with the wrong crowd, use it to cope with pain from an injury?

Try figuring that out then using it to tackle the problem at its root. Just labelling him as a useless drug addict and cutting him off isn't really the best option I'd imagine.
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Excellent post. Sadly your method (and mine for that matter) requires time and effort, an ability lacked by the OcUK GD crowd.

This is why they would rather just shoot drug users on sight quick and easy, the OcUK armchair drug rehab team does not got the time or psychological skills to devise a proper psychological intervention.
 
asim18 said:
What in blazes? Blowing people heads off? Unless you haven't realised killing people is wrong.
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Not when it's government-sanctioned, it ain't. Even God says I can kill... Murder is illegal, but killing ain't. :D

asim18 said:
And killing people just because they want to have enjoy themselves? That's just another matter.
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On average, each individual wanting to 'enjoy themselves' is doing so at the considerable (and sometimes fatal) expense of several dozen other people. Numbers win. I won't cater to the minority, especially when they just want to **** up society so they can get their rocks off.

asim18 said:
The whole problem here is MONEY. So what if a drug user wants to use drugs, you think you have a good enough reason to literally KILL anyone who wants an alternate state of mind?
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When they **** with me and mine in order to get it, you ******* bet I have a good enough reason.
I'll remind you of this statement of yours when you're lying in hospital, having had your sternum smashed in and your wallet stolen by some meth-head looking to "enjoy themselves".... I'm sure they won't mind if I take their dead crack baby and lay it at your side for company.

asim18 said:
What about that drug known as alcohol which kills the most people out of any drug? should they be killed too or do you have double standards too?
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No, no... I'm quite happy for alcohol to be taken right off the recreational market, too.

asim18 said:
but anyone caught smoking the peace herb cannabis should be shot?
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If that's all they were doing, then there'd be no worries... But it's all the other things they do to other people while "enjoying" these drugs. People have proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted to use this **** responsibly.

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Cannot believe how wrong your post is. Probably the most obvious load of nonsense I've ever read on OcUK. And pointless too because drugs will end up killing the person anyway, so why on earth should society have to kill them?
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Because of the immense suffering they cause everyone else along the way to killing themselves. This thread is a prime example. It's far cheaper to just remove them. No, really, it is - A single round to the head costs less than an eighth of green. If you don't have the stomach for it, step aside and I'll happily rid the world of them, for you.

asim18 said:
Meanwhile in the real world the only way to remove the market for drug dealers is to remove the artificial inflation of the price bought on by Law itself.
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Nope. There's always a cheaper and easier way. That's what helped Tik become so popular in South Africa.
 
asim18 said:
Excellent post. Sadly your method (and mine for that matter) requires time and effort, an ability lacked by the OcUK GD crowd.
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What makes you think druggies are worth that effort?

asim18 said:
This is why they would rather just shoot drug users on sight quick and easy, the OcUK armchair drug rehab team does not got the time or psychological skills to devise a proper psychological intervention.
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You shoudn't need an intervention in the first place.
You should be grown up enough to use this ******** responsibly, or know to stay away from it.
Why should I have to pick up the pieces of MY life just because you wanna get high and waste yours??!!
 
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