What were the advantages in being in the EU?

Do you think

A) the UK will remain the 5th largest economy in the world (or better!) after having left the EU despite having had Scotland leave the UK to rejoin the EU leaving just England, Wales and NI (and this doesn't take into account the potential changes meaning NI could well accelerate union with Eire also leaving the UK given their vote to remain)?

or

B)this train of events will fundamentally damage the UKs economic and influence position in the world

All of this is conjecture and off topic.
 
All of this is conjecture and off topic.
Oh how very convenient :rolleyes:

You make the point the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world and hugely influential but when challenged as to where the UK ends up out of the EU and potentially minus Scotland and eventually NI it's " conjecture and off topic".

Brexit lala land politics, economics and politics right here in action ladies and gentlemen.
 
Quit yapping mate, ashamed to live in the same city as you. The leavers are going to regret this for the rest of their days, watch as the chaos unfolds you morons. That financial sector in London accounts for 78% of the UKs entire GDP. It's essentially the only "Great" thing about us and was heavily tied to the EU. You can bet your damn ass they are getting out.

The leave campaign right now are shocked as to what to do. Article 50 hasn't been used yet and Boris is begging for more time before he has to make the decision, he knows deep down it should never have come about.

Leave sell feelings and nationalism, "Make Britain great again", "Take back the power", "Cut the shackles". What a load of utter bull you suckers lapped up. Disgusting.
 
Don't forget the biggest turnout was for elderly voters, and they overwhelmingly voted to leave. They will die off not much later than when negotiations finish, so they can say '**** you' to the EU (I guess) and not have to live with the consequences for too long.

I know right, I'm actually surprised they even had the audacity to vote, also a friend of a friend is terminally ill with cancer, I was proper annoyed he had a vote, he'll be unlikely to even last the year. :mad::mad:
 
I run a small business employing 5 people (including us two directors). Instantly we lost the opportunity of £50,000, as we had tenders with two councils who receive a significant amount of funding through the EU's European Regional Development Fund. We've worked with one before which received €450m. The fact that those areas also voted Leave - Cornwall and South Wales - is absolutely mind boggling. Anyway, those infrastructure and development funds will be scrapped completely and the projects we tendered for will naturally be canned.

We also have a client who's a UK based tour operator. We've just employed that fifth person to undertake a large part of this contract but they have no idea what's going to happen. If the pound remains weak they may lose customers to UK travel, especially for their North America trips. If this is the case they could well pull part of our contract and if the Brexit only effects 3 of their North America trips we'll lose over £45,000 and likely have to make our new employee redundant.

As you can guess I voted remain and am genuinely worried. I hope I'm wrong but given I lost a lot the second it was announced I can't really see anything offsetting that.

don't worry mayte, you got your sovereignty now so that will make it all better.

On a serious note, this is why the whole referendum was insane. This country has just been thrown into turmoil by people who's main motivation to vote leave was to stick it to the man. These same people likely don't give a crap that you are going to have to lay someone off , or that your business just took a hit. but they will fill you with rhetoric about taking back control and sovereignty.
 
Quit yapping mate, ashamed to live in the same city as you. The leavers are going to regret this for the rest of their days, watch as the chaos unfolds you morons. That financial sector in London accounts for 78% of the UKs entire GDP. It's essentially the only "Great" thing about us and was heavily tied to the EU. You can bet your damn ass they are getting out.

The leave campaign right now are shocked as to what to do. Article 50 hasn't been used yet and Boris is begging for more time before he has to make the decision, he knows deep down it should never have come about.

Leave sell feelings and nationalism, "Make Britain great again", "Take back the power", "Cut the shackles". What a load of utter bull you suckers lapped up. Disgusting.

These tasty tears of impotent rage.. salty, yet delicious!
 
These tasty tears of impotent rage.. salty, yet delicious!

but its not salty, I've been stuck in a position where I have to decided whether to stay in the UK for the next 20 years or move abroad now due to my wage which has been decided by people worried about 'sovereignty'.

I've not been moaning at leavers, I'm all for the democratic process, but now no one has actually stood up and taken control and thats left me looking for work outside the UK.
 
We have made a bold step there is no doubt, but despite all this talk about the financial services leaving London and bankrupting the country etc. I don't buy it, a handful might leave, but we will continue to have all our major trade deals as it's in our partners bests interests. Like I said, we will rise once this rock(EU) holding us back has gone and we can setup trade routes with existing partners and new, much larger ones.

Britain isn't finished, it's just getting started.

I don't mean to sound rude but I think you're confusing quite a few topics here. Investment isn't the same as trade.

Also, to highlight something you said about financial services not leaving. Here is a rather sobering fact:

In order for the international banks based in London to trade with EU clients and counterparties they need access to passporting for international banking licenses. For example if a US investment bank in London wants to trade with a German pension fund they require access to the necessary banking license. The second we leave the EU, those banks won't have access to those banking licenses. At all. So certain aspects of financial services won't have a choice as to whether they leave the UK, they'll simply have to because they won't be able to undertake such trading practices.

This is huge because a).the tax generated for the UK by the banks in 2014 amounted to £31.3bn (or 5.5% of the total tax earned by the UK) and b) the European countries and cities have been desperate to get their hands on our wonderful financial services for years (the EU introduced loads of restrictions aimed at limiting the success and influence of the UK's prowess in banking markets) and therefore during negotiations the EU will try everything possible to deny us access to the necessary licenses.

It may not seem like a big deal or that Leave voters from the regions are quite removed from banking, but the fallout from this will be disastrous and keenly felt across the whole UK. Just because you don't believe it won't happen that doesn't mean it won't. Confirmation bias in these situations can be dangerous.
 
but its not salty, I've been stuck in a position where I have to decided whether to stay in the UK for the next 20 years or move abroad now due to my wage which has been decided by people worried about 'sovereignty'.

I've not been moaning at leavers, I'm all for the democratic process, but now no one has actually stood up and taken control and thats left me looking for work outside the UK.

Fair comment, I was more swiping at the mouthy losers here calling people morons for voting leave. Hang in there, Brexit will be the best thing the UK has done for itself.
 
Fair comment, I was more swiping at the mouthy losers here calling people morons for voting leave. Hang in there, Brexit will be the best thing the UK has done for itself.
Even if it does mean in a few years time "UK" could actually just mean "England and Wales". :rolleyes:
 
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Even if it does mean in a few years time "UK" could actually just mean "England and Wales".

Might as well call it Poundland as that is all we will have going for us. Mind you even the pound might be worthless by then anyway.
 
Sums it up: https://66.media.tumblr.com/2da1e4446738576b028c117254fc2a3f/tumblr_o0i5cilAYi1s5e5bko1_500.gif

As it's non-legally binding, I hope those who have sense and should have made this decision in the first place (not leaving it to our racist population) to reside in the EU.

The racist card AGAIN, oh my aching sides can't take much more!!!
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Our racist population, being racist against White European migrants. I know racists are dumb, but the British racists are really dumb by any measurement!
 
Fair comment, I was more swiping at the mouthy losers here calling people morons for voting leave. Hang in there, Brexit will be the best thing the UK has done for itself.

I got called a moron for putting up a reasonable argument for remain, hey ho just seems the way of this forum.

Either way, I can't 'hang in there'. I need a house now, and stand to lose a massive amount by buying. An amount that I will possibly never make back.

I've got 2 years to pull the trigger. I've served my country whatever the cost to my personal life for the last 9 years and now all it's offering me is instability and uncertainty. I've signed on the dotted line to serve my country for 22 years in total, and now I'm looking at leaving because the same people I promised myself to cannot tell me where my life will be in a couple of years.

I was already struggling to own a house on my own beforehand, and now I'm pretty sure I'd rather contract myself out and my life to a foreign nation rather than live through the ****storm of the next 10 years.
 
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