What will Windows 7 contain? Look here for a good guess...

I'm quite sceptical of those screenshots... They look too 'complete', not only that, they look pretty much exactly like Vista, and the start menu's completely populated for whatever reason... Surely a pre-alpha build (like it should be at now) wouldn't have all this pre-installed carp already on it?

The GUI will be the last thing to get a make over. What's been handed out by Microsoft now is just background changes, the average user won't know/care about.

It's still along way from release, so the GUI will change abit before then. :)
 
The GUI will be the last thing to get a make over. What's been handed out by Microsoft now is just background changes, the average user won't know/care about.

It's still along way from release, so the GUI will change abit before then. :)

Exactly - I'd've expected the screenshots to have been in the Windows classic scheme before they get Aero Glass running under it. And a link to install Windows Live Messenger on a pre-alpha version? What?
 
Those screenshots are fake BTW people :) Although they are a "good guess" as to what it currently looks like. Seeings as all the revised shell and user experience is still very much in initial development stages.

a revised kernal project called MinWin has been successfully tested implementing a 25MB size and running on 48MBs of RAM...

Rumors suggest Windows 7 is aimed to take no more than 400MBs of RAM to run... but we will see.

That's complete bull. Windows 7 is going to need more memory than Vista. And the kernel is barely any different from Vista's too.
 
I'm quite sceptical of those screenshots... They look too 'complete', not only that, they look pretty much exactly like Vista, and the start menu's completely populated for whatever reason... Surely a pre-alpha build (like it should be at now) wouldn't have all this pre-installed carp already on it?

I'm pretty scpetical too. With Windows 7 being a user build, it should look significantly different.

Photoshop tbh.

Burnsy
 
Looking at the list looks like most of them are aimed at Vista (i.e. the domain list, tweaks to IE and desktop).

I'd be very suprised if we didn't see 30% of them in Vista in the next year or so. Some of the features (such as System Restore) are installable using tweaks so it's only a minor patch to get that working.

EDIT: In fact the entire list looks like it's for Vista. Such things as stop errors surely can't be fixed for a new operating system that doesn't exist yet?


M.
 
Looking at the list looks like most of them are aimed at Vista (i.e. the domain list, tweaks to IE and desktop).

I'd be very suprised if we didn't see 30% of them in Vista in the next year or so. Some of the features (such as System Restore) are installable using tweaks so it's only a minor patch to get that working.

EDIT: In fact the entire list looks like it's for Vista. Such things as stop errors surely can't be fixed for a new operating system that doesn't exist yet?


M.

Yup looks like a big list of changes in SP1/SP2 ?
 
Hm...

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I found a contradiction...
 
Yup. NT 6.1 is the kernel used by Windows Server 2008 and Vista SP1.

Windows 7 will have a NT 7.0 kernel due to it having the hypervisor.

The M1 build is being completely overhyped.
 
The problem is that MinWin isn't actually a product. Microsoft has said many times that MinWin will never be turned into or integrated with a commercial product. After all, what possible use would anyone have with a 25MB Windows kernel that can't do anything?

MinWin is an internal research project looking at the intra and inter dependencies that exist in the Windows code base.

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/win7_minwin_preview.asp

Windows Vista had some of this work done. Windows Server 2008 has even more of it done (hence the availability of the Windows Server Core feature).

Windows 7 just extends the work a bit further. At a guess it looks like Microsoft are seeking to understand the interdependencies at such a fine scale so that they can produce a Windows 7 SKU for developing markets with exceptionally low system requirements.

MinWin is more of a development practice or development auditing methodology.

The actual MinWin demonstration by Eric Traut was simply a compilation and build of Windows with pretty much everything stripped out. It was kind of like "look at how slim we can get it!" That does not mean Windows 7 will have some "new kernel" like the tech media make out.

Oh and no surprise that Wikipedia is using it's usual sensationalist statements without a source.
 
I love the way people think the Kernel is the operating system. It is a very small part dwarfed many times by the size of the user space components.

Some 'tard in the comments section of the ZD blogs stated he wanted just the kernel to install his own programs on. Can i get a WTF?!?!!
 
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