What would you call an average wage?

Jonnycoupe said:
£23k is the grad starting salary (pre April 08) of Atkins engineering consultancy (largest multi disciplinary in Europe) so looks like they are all being 'exploited'. Clown, that figure also includes MD's and footballers, so its not all bottom heavy.
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So is that for London/SE or for the rest of the UK?

Also MDs & footballers constitute the tail end of the distribution , given this is the median not the mean I think you're being a clown if you think they have much relevance to the figure.
 
dmpoole said:
I tried to get over to my 2 Brummie colleagues that they were actually on less than minimum wage when they took travelling time and petrol into the equation.
My working day starts from the minute I get out of bed to when I arrive home and to say any different is foolish.
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This is true to some extent, but it varies for everyone.
I do an 11h day including travelling and Lunchbreak. But my salary counts just as much towards an average as someone doing say 8.5hrs.

Travelling costs and time is one reason why I'm looking to move house. My old job was 35h/week with 12mins walk each way, so total hours per week was 37hrs. At the moment I'm doing around 55h with £75/month train ticket. I'm STILL better off in my new job, though. I do wanna get
back to the days of walking to work however.

One important thing to bear in mind with travelling costs is say an increase of £800/year will actually work out at over a grand in salary terms due to tax/ni etc.

One thing I will say is that in my experience, getting a good salary is down to far more than just ability, experience, training, intelligence or graft. Due to his line of work my father was never especially well paid (he didn't hit the high tax bracket until just before retiring), yet he was probably one of the most knowledgeable in his field (over 30yrs as boss), was very dedicated, and had a huge amount of responsibility. In the private sector I can only imagine he would have got paid double what he did.

Likewise from my point of view, my first job paid £10k/year and I worked damn hard, there was a lot of responsibility, only two people in the company were trained for it, stress level was very high etc. Whereas now I earn a lot more and yet my job is easier if anything.
 
^indeed.... in fact I'd say the opposite - it must be pretty hard for a "complete retard" to graduate at all, regardless of what salary they end up on :)
 
*HOLY THREAD BUMP*

I came across this thread while searching for @FoxEye original road to 50k thread. Just curious what people consider an average nowadays? I would say i'm a bit below average, I am 32 and earn 26.6k in London working in an MIS team for a college.

What about you guys and what do you consider an average wage?
 
The average wage isn't what anyone 'considers' it to be, because an average is something that gets calculated, not dreamt up in someone's imagination. Apparently the official average UK salary last year was £38,600, but obviously that could be broken down by region, demographic etc.
 
R.P.L said:
The average wage isn't what anyone 'considers' it to be, because an average is something that gets calculated, not dreamt up in someone's imagination. Apparently the official average UK salary last year was £38,600, but obviously that could be broken down by region, demographic etc.
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Median is a better measure, apparently about £31,500 in 2020
 
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