What would you call an average wage?

markyp23 said:
Why so judgemental? I know lots of people who earn far more than that who are tight with money.
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I was not, hence the question about outgoings. I personally know the owner of the largest horticulteral growers in the country and he drives around in a battered second hand jag which cost about 3k, yet he is a multi-millionaire. I was just curious :)
 
Nathan said:
More to the point cs nuts - if you were earning 40k a year, why would you budget 2 - 4k for a car for yourself :/

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10682402&postcount=1

You also ask for a second hand ipod for £50 max. Im sorry but if I was on 40k a year I wouldnt be so tight with my money :p perhaps you have huge outgoings and that is why you think 25k is poor money?!
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Ever heard of being frugal? Thats the value he places on those items and thus the amount he is willing to spend? My ex's family brought home 140k as a household, yet she drove a modest car, people put different values on items, doesn't mean he is tight.
 
Sukh said:
Ever heard of being frugal? Thats the value he places on those items and thus the amount he is willing to spend? My ex's family brought home 140k as a household, yet she drove a modest car, people put different values on items, doesn't mean he is tight.
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a forum shows an opinion ;)
 
22k will give you a good lifestyle if you don't have a mortgage.

People who say they won't work for X amount are just the type of people to come out of uni and live on JSA as people won't employ them. You take what you can.
 
divosuk said:
Around these parts (N.Ireland) I would say £18-19,000.

There's no way it's any higher, becuase most of the largest employers in the North west pay around £16,000 after 2-3 years and no one lasts any longer.
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Yea i agree. I think my dad makes around £16-18k here in NI. Wage changes in different countries, NI has always had a lower average wage than England.
 
AcidHell2 said:
People who say they won't work for X amount are just the type of people to come out of uni and live on JSA as people won't employ them. You take what you can.
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If you've got a good degree you shouldn't have to sell yourself short though. I'm not on about temp jobs etc... as a gap filler and I agree someone would have to be a bit arrogant to turn one down and go on JSA. But if you're going to be employed in something directly relevant to your degree where you know you can add value fairly quickly then I reckon you'd be right to want a decent pay off else you're just being exploited.
 
dowie said:
If you've got a good degree you shouldn't have to sell yourself short though. I'm not on about temp jobs etc... as a gap filler and I agree someone would have to be a bit arrogant to turn one down and go on JSA. But if you're going to be employed in something directly relevant to your degree where you know you can add value fairly quickly then I reckon you'd be right to want a decent pay off else you're just being exploited.
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It's better to get a job in a relevant sector at low pay and prove yourself rather than turning your nose up at it. If you can secure a job on great pay then all's good.
 
Nathan said:
More to the point cs nuts - if you were earning 40k a year, why would you budget 2 - 4k for a car for yourself :/
You also ask for a second hand ipod for £50 max.
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Perhaps he thinks like me - a car is a piece of junk metal for getting you from A to B and laughs at people who treat them like their girlfriend.
I've spent the last 34 years of my working life listening to adult men arguing over whose got the best car and seeing fights over it.
If I won the lottery I'd still spend £3000 max on a car.
I too am looking for a 2nd hand IPOD touch even though I've got a few thousand in the bank.
However, because of my priorities I thought nothing of buying a 2,900 watt PA system in the week for £2,000.
 
to be honest its not the end wage which counts (for me anyway) its the overall balance between what goes in and what goes out each month. As long as you've got loads FREE each month then you're onto a winner :D
 
AcidHell2 said:
It's better to get a job in a relevant sector at low pay and prove yourself rather than turning your nose up at it. If you can secure a job on great pay then all's good.
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but we were talking about development - this is an area where someone with relevant skills + a summer internship/sandwich year can easily add value to a company.

paying someone like that less than 20k is a joke - my place pays about 30-35k for fresh grads as do most of our rivals - therefore I think it isn't arrogant for the poster who made the comment about not accepting anything less than 20k to have said that - if hes done an internship and gets a good degree then in the SE he ought to be looking at around the 30k mark.

the national average of 23k or so includes people with few quals, people in low skilled jobs, people living in the north etc... - someone in the SE with a decent science/engineering degree, in the private sector, ought to be aiming for a bit more else they are simply being exploited. (with the exception of startups etc...)
 
dowie said:
paying someone like that less than 20k is a joke - my place pays about 30-35k for fresh grads as do most of our rivals - therefore I think it isn't arrogant for the poster who made the comment about not accepting anything less than 20k to have said that - if hes done an internship and gets a good degree then in the SE he ought to be looking at around the 30k mark.
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I'm the guy who said he wouldn't work for less than 20k and I think you make a good purpose why. I may not be going to the best uni (at all) but while I'm here next year I'm going to be participating in research, keeping myself busy, aiming for a 1st and also taking a placement year in either Leeds, Sheffield or London in the business sector. I also aim to have a decent second income starting as of this summer too.

I would hope that with a range of skills and worldly knowledge would make me a candidate able to work at the £20,000 level in a couple of years time. I have seen placements for undergraduates between £18-25k which is quite high for only having a one year student to work with. :)

Maybe I just have high goals, that I feel I can achieve.
 
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hi,
I live in northern ireland aswell.
average take home a month: £1095.00 working 12 hour shift pattern for seagate,(not much longer..redundancy in october)
After all bills (increasing mortgage,deisel costs etc) have £105.00 a month clear to use for additional food,miscellaneous goods etc'
not a lot but im happy, i've a roof over my head and live in a great location near the sea, lead a healthy life and have a loving partner........things i put in much higher value than that extra quid in the pay packet.
 
Nathan said:
40k a year I wouldnt be so tight with my money :p perhaps you have huge outgoings and that is why you think 25k is poor money?!
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25K certainly isn't poor money by any measure. The only problem is with people who spend more than they earn to try to live up to some "expected" standard usually defined by celebrities and the media.

My wife and I take home a very reasonable amount between us but as we don't fall into the must-have trap we can have a good standard of living without worrying about not having the latest iPod, TV or BMW 3 Series.

Money most certainly does not equal happiness.
 
£14.5K a year

Which isn't a bad wage for working with animals. (wildlife rehabilitation).

Live with parents at the moment so I reckon £14.5K will be a struggle when I move out. However it's a case of living within your means.
 
I would have said low 20's.

I wouldn't be happy with a starting wage of less than about £23k but depending on the other benefits of the job I may accept a bit less.

I can't see the point in spending 3-4 years at Uni only to be on less than your friends who didn't go to Uni. Obviously faster career progression is more likely with a degree but not always the case.
 
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