You don't appear to be making a good one in my eyes.
Ok rubbish builds up
Rats start feeding on rubbish
Other wildlife starts feeding on the rats
ad infinitum until you get to the to the top of the food chain..
ME
(and my gun)
What would you do if everyone just dissapeared?
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You don't appear to be making a good one in my eyes.
Ok rubbish builds up
Rats start feeding on rubbish
Other wildlife starts feeding on the rats
ad infinitum until you get to the to the top of the food chain..
ME
(and my gun)
I saw some gash thing on discovery about what if humans vanished. Anyway domesticated dogs and cats die out very fast unless they had access to the outdoors at the time. Most will starve to death in houses. The clever ones that can use can openers will last a few days longer.
thats why im gonna make a cat fur pimp suit while im on my way to the sperm bank via the breadknife factory
thats why im gonna make a cat fur pimp suit while im on my way to the sperm bank via the breadknife factory
You don't appear to be making a good one in my eyes.
Ok rubbish builds up
Rats start feeding on rubbish
Other wildlife starts feeding on the rats
ad infinitum until you get to the to the top of the food chain..
ME
(and my gun)
Until you die in agony from some undiagnosed disease you picked up from the insects feeding on the Rubbish and dead animals and Rats
All I'm saying is get the **** out of the city asap. Find a nice farm house, and set up shop there.
Agreed, adding to the Pestilence which would pervade the city within months. Enough animals, especially dogs would escape from their houses, unfortunately the bigger, more powerful ones. Cities and any Urban centre are a hazard I wouldn't be prepared to take.
Oh so all those families in Slums in say India should all be dead already (outside of this scenario)
I agree that some do die of horrible disease but you make out like it would be the worse thing ever.
I guess living on a farm in the country I am used to rat **** and the like
How some of you town folk would cope I have no idea
Oh so all those families in Slums in say India should all be dead already (outside of this scenario)
I agree that some do die of horrible disease but you make out like it would be the worse thing ever.
I guess living on a farm in the country I am used to rat **** and the like
How some of you town folk would cope I have no idea
I dont live in the city either. I actually live in a eco-friendly custom designed house which is self sufficient. So I would be ok, except for a few security and supply issues I could pretty much just carry on as normal.
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But there are more than one person living in the slums of India. They have families to help when they are sick, to help protect against pestilence, disease. They have outside aid, medical supplies, outside food supplies, they have some form of support structure to live their lives. When you are alone, you do not have any of this.
Its the alone part thats important here, you have to adapt to not having help. Lifting that fallen tree out of the way, sorry cant do that without help, even with heavy lifting equipment. This is just an example.
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tons of what for what?
Yes you can there is no need to repair subsystems. gas, water drainage would be off. Or easily turned of.
Why would you need to find a fuse box. Things would have to be re wired after teh generators ran out of fuel. you would only need to sort out lighting and heat in a couple of rooms. Gas, water. electricity is easily turned off.
You are talking about pristine with everything working. again this is not needed. Roads will last for hundreds of years. Not to a standard of a bust human filled world. But that world wouldn't exist. it would need to be good enough for 4x4 or tracked vehicles something it would be good enough long after you would die.
You can do a hell of a lot on your own, if you have a little know how. Perhaps you don't have the know how. A lot of us do. You can lift insane weights with hand held equipment. Things like forklifts are electrically powered. With all the supplys and equipment left you can achieve a lot. Especially as you would not be fighting for survival. Endless supply of breeze blocks and cement.
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I would firstly find an articulated lorry and drive it to my local Tesco. I would probably need to move cars out of the way en route so I would move all cars that were intact and use another lorry to barge others out of the way. Once at Tesco I would load the lorry with non-perishable foodstuffs and tools for opening these such as can openers etc. I would then go to my local retail park and fill some of my lorry up with items from Argos like bedding and things to keep warm, as well as hardy footwear etc. Next stop B and Q for an entire tool supply and garden implement supply. Any more space in the Lorry would be for more food. Then I would go back home as my house is fairly secure. I would need electricity in the next few hours so I would take the now unloaded lorry round to building contractors and take as many generators as I could find, along with a full supply of diesel. I would need to get diesel from filling stations as soon as possible in order to have some for my lorry and generators, so it would be stocked up properly.
I need a weapon at this stage in anticipation of the future. My best bet is to take as many SA80s as possible as I know how to use and maintain these. I would need ammunition and oil, so I would head to Ballykinler army barracks where I know the location of the weapons store. In the future I will acquire more, and probably different weapons, but for now I stick with what I know.
Next stop is the library and the flight training schools here, I would go by motorbike so that I have more chance of getting through the roads, I would probably have to make a few trips but could at least assess the road situation. I would take instructions for light aircraft flight and other books such as haines manuals for my car, bike and lorry. I would also take books on self sufficient gardening and various things like fencing. Also I would get full maps for everywhere.
I would have to study the maps of the UK in order to find the best airport that I might be able to land my plane in that had a few back up airports nearby in case the runway was blocked. Also I would wait until it became summer so that the sky was clearer. Once I thought I was ready to fly I would go to the airport and chose a plane that is not my final one, but similar and go for a test flight. This is the first realistic stage that I think I might die, but having survived my test flight and landing I would wing it and pack as much as I could into my plane, without exceeding its weight limit. Then I would fuel up and fly to mainland UK. Once here I would make my way further south, stocking up on non-perishable supplies as I needed them, but marking their location on my maps so that I could re-find them if needed. I would then find continent maps and search in detail again for another airport/airfield to land another light aircraft in. I would find a suitable take off spot in the south of Britain and fly to France. Once in France I would repeat my lorry antics so that I had a supply, then find a stone walled house on the outskirts of a large town. I would live here temporarily. The time period from when everyone had disappeared is now about 6 months. This means that the electricity has gone and major forest fires would have mostly subsided. However towns would be volatile due to gas etc so I would for the most part avoid them. Once I had more maps, tools and supplies I would pack my lorry and continue as far as the Loire valley, assuming I could get there on the roads. If not I would head south east until I found an appropriate farming location. I would need to have a large stock of diesel at my new location so that I could work tractors to mow the areas I needed to plough and so that I could use my generators. At this stage I would be reasonably settled that this was where I was going to base myself. So I would begin to follow the instructions to produce a self sufficient farm. I have about 3 years of non-perishable food supplies available so it would have to be a quick learning curve. I imagine that finding a live cow or goat would be a possibility and it may still be tame, if so I would have one for milk etc. I have run out of fresh water so all my water is taken from source, reached in a van that I procured when I decided to settle. I also have a motorbike for scouting roads. I have had difficulty finding haines manuals but have the French equivalent and a dictionary to English and with my basic French I can translate and keep them maintained.
Long distance travel would need to be well planned and equipped for. At this stage (5 - 6 years) airports would be overgrown and flying would be a bit useless. Also I wouldn't want to sail too far into the ocean as I wouldn't have an accurate weather report and would sail into a storm. I would possibly attempt to create a few 'safe' places but then I would have no-one running the original farm and so would have to be well stocked up for at least 2 years before moving too far afield. Soon it will be impossible to use my generators as I have used up all the diesel that I can find, so back to the basics in terms of no lighting, electric cooking, electric tools and electricity powered entertainment.
Throughout all this time it would be imperative that I kept fit, so that I could run from wild animals, or work my farm myself. So running as much as I could would be a good option. Also weight training and the like. Also being fit will enable me to be more comfortable in the winter, as I would have no heating. For heating I would just have a stock of jumpers, fleeces, thermals and blankets as this would be the best way to keep warm. Of course an open fire in the house would enable me to keep warm, along with a fire stove if the house had one - if it didn't a basic metal bent A-frame would be how I cook, I would hang pots from it (drilled earlier with my procured drill in my tools) to boil water etc. I would not be able to keep clean all the time, but I would more than likely have to swim - and then probably catch a water borne disease, but if not I would be lucky and clean.
Eventually the ground at my farm would become useless, so I would have to move nearby to farm. It will be better at this point if I move my main base to the new location. This would have to occur every 7 - 10 years.
If I got an illness that I could not cure with penicillin that I had procured I would either have to fight it off, or die. If I fell and broke my leg it wouldn't heal correctly and I would have difficulty farming, and I might die. If I damaged myself beyond capability to work my farm I would die. And eventually I will become so exceptionally bored that I would probably have to wander off and just die, or shoot myself.
My only comfort would be talking to God the whole time, whether or not you believe he exists, I do, and it would keep my mind active and me able to talk. Also I would have bad days when I missed people, and good days when I was happy with my situation, even though it would be hard. I would also get a radio and broadcast my location just in case anyone heard, but my survival would become more important than finding other people.
Yep, that's my 'ideal' plan, sorry it's a bit all over the place but hope you like it.
Also TL/DR - I've a better plan than you
I need a weapon at this stage in anticipation of the future. My best bet is to take as many SA80s as possible as I know how to use and maintain these. I would need ammunition and oil, so I would head to Ballykinler army barracks where I know the location of the weapons store. In the future I will acquire more, and probably different weapons, but for now I stick with what I know.
Next stop is the library and the flight training schools here, I would go by motorbike so that I have more chance of getting through the roads, I would probably have to make a few trips but could at least assess the road situation. I would take instructions for light aircraft flight and other books such as haines manuals for my car, bike and lorry. I would also take books on self sufficient gardening and various things like fencing. Also I would get full maps for everywhere.
I would have to study the maps of the UK in order to find the best airport that I might be able to land my plane in that had a few back up airports nearby in case the runway was blocked. Also I would wait until it became summer so that the sky was clearer. Once I thought I was ready to fly I would go to the airport and chose a plane that is not my final one, but similar and go for a test flight. This is the first realistic stage that I think I might die, but having survived my test flight and landing I would wing it and pack as much as I could into my plane, without exceeding its weight limit. Then I would fuel up and fly to mainland UK. Once here I would make my way further south, stocking up on non-perishable supplies as I needed them, but marking their location on my maps so that I could re-find them if needed. I would then find continent maps and search in detail again for another airport/airfield to land another light aircraft in. I would find a suitable take off spot in the south of Britain and fly to France. Once in France I would repeat my lorry antics so that I had a supply, then find a stone walled house on the outskirts of a large town. I would live here temporarily. The time period from when everyone had disappeared is now about 6 months. This means that the electricity has gone and major forest fires would have mostly subsided. However towns would be volatile due to gas etc so I would for the most part avoid them. Once I had more maps, tools and supplies I would pack my lorry and continue as far as the Loire valley, assuming I could get there on the roads. If not I would head south east until I found an appropriate farming location. I would need to have a large stock of diesel at my new location so that I could work tractors to mow the areas I needed to plough and so that I could use my generators. At this stage I would be reasonably settled that this was where I was going to base myself. So I would begin to follow the instructions to produce a self sufficient farm. I have about 3 years of non-perishable food supplies available so it would have to be a quick learning curve. I imagine that finding a live cow or goat would be a possibility and it may still be tame, if so I would have one for milk etc. I have run out of fresh water so all my water is taken from source, reached in a van that I procured when I decided to settle. I also have a motorbike for scouting roads. I have had difficulty finding haines manuals but have the French equivalent and a dictionary to English and with my basic French I can translate and keep them maintained.
Long distance travel would need to be well planned and equipped for. At this stage (5 - 6 years) airports would be overgrown and flying would be a bit useless. Also I wouldn't want to sail too far into the ocean as I wouldn't have an accurate weather report and would sail into a storm. I would possibly attempt to create a few 'safe' places but then I would have no-one running the original farm and so would have to be well stocked up for at least 2 years before moving too far afield. Soon it will be impossible to use my generators as I have used up all the diesel that I can find, so back to the basics in terms of no lighting, electric cooking, electric tools and electricity powered entertainment.
Throughout all this time it would be imperative that I kept fit, so that I could run from wild animals, or work my farm myself. So running as much as I could would be a good option. Also weight training and the like. Also being fit will enable me to be more comfortable in the winter, as I would have no heating. For heating I would just have a stock of jumpers, fleeces, thermals and blankets as this would be the best way to keep warm. Of course an open fire in the house would enable me to keep warm, along with a fire stove if the house had one - if it didn't a basic metal bent A-frame would be how I cook, I would hang pots from it (drilled earlier with my procured drill in my tools) to boil water etc. I would not be able to keep clean all the time, but I would more than likely have to swim - and then probably catch a water borne disease, but if not I would be lucky and clean.
Eventually the ground at my farm would become useless, so I would have to move nearby to farm. It will be better at this point if I move my main base to the new location. This would have to occur every 7 - 10 years.
If I got an illness that I could not cure with penicillin that I had procured I would either have to fight it off, or die. If I fell and broke my leg it wouldn't heal correctly and I would have difficulty farming, and I might die. If I damaged myself beyond capability to work my farm I would die. And eventually I will become so exceptionally bored that I would probably have to wander off and just die, or shoot myself.
My only comfort would be talking to God the whole time, whether or not you believe he exists, I do, and it would keep my mind active and me able to talk. Also I would have bad days when I missed people, and good days when I was happy with my situation, even though it would be hard. I would also get a radio and broadcast my location just in case anyone heard, but my survival would become more important than finding other people.
Yep, that's my 'ideal' plan, sorry it's a bit all over the place but hope you like it.
Also TL/DR - I've a better plan than you
I do have a certain amount of knowledge of survival have been in the ML2 for 10 years but, to maintain an airport is a waste of your time. Just rewiring the place on your own would take years,and if you are going to use just a mall part of it then why not just use a farm house or equivilent structure.
As for tonnage, Airport buildings are normally prefabricated, and use huge reinforced concrete blocks etc.
Roads would last a couple of years at most before they became unusable from weather and natural encroachment. No one to maintain them on a regular basis again.
How are you going to convert those track vehicles to LPG or Propane as all the diesel and Petrol would have been rendered useless with 18 months 2 years at best.
I'm not saying it cant be done, but the obstacles are so many and the benefits so few when compared to a little smallholding farm far from any urban area, powered by propane generators and defended with electric fences. Plenty of avaliable land to grow and raise livestock which is what you should be doing, not trying to keep roads open and worring about whether you turned no26's gas off or not.
I think most people referring to cars and generators etc, miss the point that petrol does not last long, a few weeks and it starts to deteriorate. So what are you going to do once this happens?
For me i would head down to Devon or around there lots of rock pools, and fishing opportunities, also lots of wildlife to hunt.
I would then have a massive stock up of dried foods, and things like matches and magnesium fire starters.
And i think i would be good to go once i had found the correct location.
For me i would head down to Devon or around there lots of rock pools, and fishing opportunities, also lots of wildlife to hunt.
I would then have a massive stock up of dried foods, and things like matches and magnesium fire starters.
And i think i would be good to go once i had found the correct location.
you keep ignoring the fact that things last a lot longer than you are saying.
As i said not everything need re-wiring.
You are making problems when non exist.
Roads will last decades.
The benefits are instant access to a lot of equipment and space. Secured fenced area. Grass land, tarmac land. Reed beds and many other favourable things.
This is what I would do and I know the problems you say would not exist because I would not do things that you are suggesting.
I would not need to convert things. Fuel will happily last a few years on an old engine. The idea is to stock pile and get what you need before such things run out or become useless.
As i said not everything need re-wiring.
You are making problems when non exist.
Roads will last decades.
The benefits are instant access to a lot of equipment and space. Secured fenced area. Grass land, tarmac land. Reed beds and many other favourable things.
This is what I would do and I know the problems you say would not exist because I would not do things that you are suggesting.
I would not need to convert things. Fuel will happily last a few years on an old engine. The idea is to stock pile and get what you need before such things run out or become useless.
Diesel kept in an airtight container in a cool environment will last for a few years as it is more like oil than petrol and has a higher 'flash-point'. Hence my lorry, van and generators run on diesel that I procured as early as possible.
Ok you would die a pointless death. But stockpiling Petrol or diesel doesnt help because even with the best techniques avalible for storage it is useless after 2 years. It begins to degrade after just 30 days.
All those benefits are more easily avaliable at any farm.
You really should do some research into the amount of maintenance required on a regular basis for the UK road network etc.
where did I say petrol 
deer god man, this is pointless it's a light hearted thread and you picked something apart in ways that are pointless ass I haven't said 99% of the things you suggest are problems.
I disagree, a farm would not provide what I would be looking for. A farm is a perfectly good solution, but it would not be mine.
deer god man, this is pointless it's a light hearted thread and you picked something apart in ways that are pointless ass I haven't said 99% of the things you suggest are problems.
I disagree, a farm would not provide what I would be looking for. A farm is a perfectly good solution, but it would not be mine.
After 2 years of being off my face on any drugs and booze I come across and and driving around in a tank and trying to demolish skyscrapers with giant bombs I'D be quite surprised if i was still alive 2