Whats Needed For My New RAID 0 Setup??

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Have just purchased 2 300GB VelociRaptor's and will be setting up a RAID configuration. I have an ABIT IP35 Pro mobo, and am all new to having a RAID setup, i want to run the 2 drives in RAID 0 configuration. I shall be doing a fresh install ofvista 64, and am just woundering what steps i need to tak to set RAID 0 up on the ip35 pro mobo.

I have looked on the ABIT website and have noticed that they have a, INTEL Application Accelerator RAID Driver , Intel RAID/AHCI Installation Disk & JMicron RAID/AHCI Installation Disk, which of these do i need for getting RAID up and running, and do i need to run these in the vista setup process, if so how?
 
You best to read a guide as its far easier then trying to get info here and it will be explained better then I can put it in layman terms.

You will OBV use the Intel Controller not the 3rd party one as you want it fast as possible.

You are obv going to need a Raid Driver on a Floppy/CD/DVD/USB Stick if your going to reinstall Vista (its not easy to do without a reinstall and you want the best out of it so best start clean).

Some will tell you Vista has its own Raid drivers for most controllers but your still better to use the proper ones at install as your going to install them later anyhow along with the other Chipset and ICH Controller Drivers, again to get full perfomance.

As your doing Raid it will also be in AHCI mode, this alone can be twitchy for some trying to swap a current installed OS from IDE Mode to AHCI Mode.
 
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I have the same mobo as you and have set up 2x 150Gb VRaptors. Some general steps to follow as below but as helmutcheese suggests it would be beteer to read a guide then ask questions on anything you're stuck on. This is what I did and now have a RAID 0 setup.

1) Using your old non-RAID system or a different computer, download the latest RAID drivers / Matrix storage manager software from the Intel website. Ignore anything provided on your motherboard CD or advice suggesting that it will work straight off on a Vista install. This will ensure your RAID install is clean and up-to-date from the outset. Files can be downloaded from here http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2101 and you need to download the Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager file and the Floppy Configuration Utility.

2) You should now have two files assuming things havent changed from when I did it. a) the RAID drivers (zip file), the one for my Vista 64 system was called f6flpy6486.zip at the time of download b) Matrix manager software file (.exe file) which was called iata86enu.exe at the time I downloaded it. There are actually 2 Matrix Manager files available being iata86cd.exe and iata86enu.exe with the difference just being the ..enu version is in English only whereas ..cd version is multi-language.

3) Put the RAID drivers on a CD or USB stick or something. Make sure you actually extract the contents from the zip file first rather than just dumping the zip file onto a CD, USB, floppy etc....

4) Shut down your computer and install the hard drives (power and SATA connectors)

5) Restart your computer and enter the BIOS, set your SATA mode to RAID.

6) Still in the BIOS, set up your boot order so you can boot from the Vista disc. * On my IP35 Pro instead of using the general "optical drive" or "CD/DVD ROM drive" or whatever option it is, I had to select the specific DVD drive model by looking further down the menu list * Once this and the above step has been completed then save changes, exit and restart.

7) Keep your eye on the startup screen and press CTRL and I when prompted to do so to enter the RAID setup screen.

8) Assuming your drives are connected properly you should now see them in this setup screen. It's pretty self explanatory but choose the correct disks and set them up in RAID 0. You will be wondering what stripe size to use at this point, I'd suggest doing some research on this before you go ahead and make an informed choice on what is best for you. I used 32kb though.

9) Restart with the Vista disc in to start off the fresh install. Some peple would recommend at this point to disconnect all HDD's with exception to your RAID 0 VRaptors so Windows doesn't install on the wrong disc or something.

10) Follow the installation steps and keep your eye open for when you can install additional drivers. When this comes up, select the option, insert the media with the RAID drivers on then select them. You should be looking for the ICH9R controller.

11) Away you go with the rest of the installation procedure.

12) Get into Vista, install the Matrix Storage Manager file that you previously downloaded, probably now on your old hard disc so that'll need reconnecting come to think of it.

13) Download and install all of the Vista updates to get rid of all the up front HDD activity.

14) Defrag your disc. This is not strictly necessary but good practice after the big installation / updates and prior to bencmarking.

15) Enable / disable write-back cache within Matrix Storage Manager (now in your Start menu / programs list) depending on your preference, mine is enabled and gives a significantly higher burst speed. Research write-back cache to find out what all this is about.

16) Run a benchmark like HD Tach once all this is complete to make sure everything is running as fast as it should, this is where you can do before / after write-back cache tests too.

17) Report back here to let us know how it goes.

This should be enough for you to work off and do further reading.

Hope it helps,

Mike
 
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Ok thanks for the reply, so in the BIOS i need to set the Hardisk to AHCI mode, id need to burn the 'Intel RAID/AHCI Installation Disk' on to a CD and then F6 (i think its F6) at the start of the vista installation, and then after vista has been installed use the 'INTEL Application Accelerator RAID Driver', and i should aviod the JMicron installation disk, is that the jist of it?

Any suggestions for a good guide?

EDIT: Just seen Mike1983's post, thanks mike
 
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I wouldn't know what benefit there would be in setting your SATA mode to AHCI would be rather than RAID. I chose RAID as I know that there are sometimes optical drive problems using AHCI. Also I understand the benefits of AHCI are related to server use (hotswapping and NCQ) which is really of no use to me.

Someone else from here though may be able to clarify further whether it would be of benefit to use AHCI rather than RAID.
 
Ok cheers, have looked on the intel website and im not 100% sure with Matrix storage manager driver im looking for, are these not on thr ABIT site?

EDIT: found them now i think: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/fil...dows+Vista*+64&lang=eng&strOSs=150&submit=Go!, but i only see the one Matrix storage manager, you mention above that there is 2?

Would it be best to get the RAID drivers from the actual ABit website, as wouldnt these be specific to the Ip35 Pro mobo?
 
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You cannot set it to AHCI mode for RAID.

There are 3 options normally.

1) IDE(EIDE)

2) AHCI

3) RAID

Option 3 RAID automatically sets it to AHCI which it has to be for RAID so its both RAID and AHCI and the driver you see on the Floppy/CD/DVD/USB Stick (scroll up and down if you do not see complete list) will have a RAID/AHCI Driver on it, ignore the standalone AHCI Driver.
 
....but i only see the one Matrix storage manager, you mention above that there is 2?....

There may only be 1, I seem to remember 2 though (it was a few months back). That can be sorted after your installation though once Vista is actually installed.
Edit.. I think I remember now, I had 2 Matrix manager files because I'd downloaded the English version (iata86enu.exe) as well as the multi-language version (iata86cd.exe). The other file was the zip file containing the RAID drivers themselves, make sure you select your correct O/S whether it be 32 or 64 bit.
 
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...Would it be best to get the RAID drivers from the actual ABit website, as wouldnt these be specific to the Ip35 Pro mobo?

They would work but no it is most definitely best to get them from the intel site. The only way of ensuring they are the most up-to-date available at time of installation.

Don't get me wrong, they would work, just like the ones embedded in Vista will work but it's always best to have the latest drivers direct from the manufacturer which in this case is Intel.

Edit... When do you think you will be going ahead with this? It would be good to compare your 2x 300Gb VRaptor benchmark against my 2x 150Gb VRaptors.
 
Well apparently the date on the HD's are June, so dont know if that would be the launch FW or not?? Now cos im going RAID 0, if one of the HD fails, they bith fail! So what safe guards can i put in place?
 
If you are using Vista you will not need drivers on a floppy. It has inbuilt AHCI and RAID drivers for ICH7/8/9/10 upwards iirc.
 
If you are using Vista you will not need drivers on a floppy. It has inbuilt AHCI and RAID drivers for ICH7/8/9/10 upwards iirc.

True as long as you're happy with them being out of date from the start. Personal preference I suppose but I'd want to be using the latest drivers I can get my hands on.
 
ICHR9 driver that works is on the Vista disk so you dont need to have a USB/Floppy with the driver for install, just install the Matrix Storage when you get to Vista...
 
ICHR9 driver that works is on the Vista disk so you dont need to have a USB/Floppy with the driver for install, just install the Matrix Storage when you get to Vista...
True as long as you're happy with them being out of date from the start. Personal preference I suppose but I'd want to be using the latest drivers I can get my hands on.

Got the drives now, just awaiting my Antec 1200 case and 720W Enermax Infinity PSU, and then will install them

Cool, didn't realise you had stuff outstanding. Remember to let us know how you got on.

Thanks

Mike
 
Ok im at a complete loss as to which Raid driver i need form the Intel website, to install at the vista64 installation there are sooo many files, any help please?
 
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