Whats the advantage playing at a high resolution?

[~>Dg<~]

professional players are lame as hell, they call themselves professionals but all they are in my opinion is abusers. they abuse these things in games to gain an advantage over other players. don't see the point in playing a game if all you want to do is win and not enjoy the experience, thats just totally missing the point. thats one of the main reasons i dislike playing competative matches on starcraft II, everybody does the same bloody thing! nobody games for fun anymore, its all just got far too serious.

is this not true of most sports ?

thats the thing you see a runner aint wearing your normal atire is he or normal trainers its just the same.

 

[orderoftheflame]

I just think that by turning all the settings off and running at crap resolutions, you may as well just play Doom and Quake 1.

Developers should lock settings down so that no one can gain an advantage, if consoles used keyboards and mice instead of joypads it would be winzor!

A closed system, pefecto!!

You've pretty much summed it up for yourself there. If you want a locked level platform play on consoles.

If you lock settings down on PC, you'll be alienating all the people that can't play at those settings, and forcing the people with powerful rigs to have worse graphics then they can achieve.

Higher performance and less detailed environments are a by product of allowing people to play a game on low spec PCs. It's unrealistic to lock it out.

If you want the same benefits as the players that play at low res, you have to sacrifice the pretties. You can't have both.

professional players are lame as hell, they call themselves professionals but all they are in my opinion is abusers. they abuse these things in games to gain an advantage over other players. don't see the point in playing a game if all you want to do is win and not enjoy the experience, thats just totally missing the point. thats one of the main reasons i dislike playing competative matches on starcraft II, everybody does the same bloody thing! nobody games for fun anymore, its all just got far too serious.

They call themselves professionals because they make a living from playing games. That's kind of the definition.

The top of any sport works the same way. Watch Formula 1 much? You could have a pretty big list of all the "abusing" of rules from just the last few years. Double diffusers, F-duct, flexing front wings, mass dampers and so on.

If you can't adapt to what the other players are doing, you're not competitive.

 

[Gashman]

is this not true of most sports ?

thats the thing you see a runner aint wearing your normal atire is he or normal trainers its just the same.

well no, because sports are governed by rules and referees. football for example you get two teams of eleven blokes, all wearing football boots, playing by the same bunch of rules. imagine one team wearing studded boots and one wearing trainers, thats what i mean by advantage. agree with Oxy personally

 

[craptakular]

Yeh I understand that people need to change settings for performance. From a "pro" hardcore ultimate warrior players, assuming all could run at the highest settings then games could and should be locked down.

This is done on consoles as obviously they are all the same unit. Competitive PC gaming could be good if all settings could be locked down.

I realise it's a hypothetical situation.

 

[Gashman]

orderoftheflame, i watch Formula One all the time for many years, you forgot to mention the SHOCKING team orders on Ferrari's part

 

[orderoftheflame]

Yeh I understand that people need to change settings for performance. From a "pro" hardcore ultimate warrior players, assuming all could run at the highest settings then games could and should be locked down.

This is done on consoles as obviously they are all the same unit. Competitive PC gaming could be good if all settings could be locked down.

I realise it's a hypothetical situation.

You assume that everyone can run the highest settings in a competition. However, you know that everyone can run lowest settings (or they wouldn't have entered!).

If you start demanding high settings for people to use, you're giving people with the best hardware a massive advantage.

Consoles, you know that a game will run the same regardless of settings. PC performance varies from machine to machine.

orderoftheflame, i watch Formula One all the time for many years, you forgot to mention the SHOCKING team orders on Ferrari's part

Well it proves my point really doesn't it? Teams will do anything to bend the rules to breaking point in order to get the best results.

 

[~>Dg<~]

well no, because sports are governed by rules and referees. football for example you get two teams of eleven blokes, all wearing football boots, playing by the same bunch of rules. imagine one team wearing studded boots and one wearing trainers, thats what i mean by advantage. agree with Oxy personally

you are also governed by refs and rules in comp scene

it is just the same as a sport some day it will be in the olympics its just the same amount of practice application of skill and so on . ive done sports to a decent level and the same amount of technique skill whatever you want to call it is applied.


go on any big league site ladders or any other place go read the rules regs its quite strict and well run. public server are a different matter.

one thing that does cause a stir is ambient occlusion on nvidia cards for those that dont know you can see through smoke or near enough. its a normal nvidia setting but that is what it does. maybe they did it to sell loads of cards i dont know .

 

[Gashman]

yeah i know where your coming from, but not really very polite! Ferrari for me are very lacking in sportsmanship at the minute. same with all these bloody diving players in football, wanna know my solution? me sisters dog has this electric-shock collar that gives him a shock when he barks, since he is really bad for it. give players similar collars and shock them when they dive! not really appropriate in F1 though, would probably cause lots of crashes!

 

[Cycrow]

personally i think locking high res for competative matchs gives more an advantage than running in low res.

as the players with more money that can afford the best hardware are going to have an advantage.

at least with lower res, everyone has the option to set the low res, regardless of thier hardware.

i dont really see y ppl have a problem with pros running at lower res, if you not a pro, then it wont effect you in anyway

 

[neverender]

moreeee dots, moreee dots (wow reference for the geeks out there)

Whelps. 3fps. Death.

 

[kylew]

You assume that everyone can run the highest settings in a competition. However, you know that everyone can run lowest settings (or they wouldn't have entered!).

If you start demanding high settings for people to use, you're giving people with the best hardware a massive advantage.

Consoles, you know that a game will run the same regardless of settings. PC performance varies from machine to machine.



Well it proves my point really doesn't it? Teams will do anything to bend the rules to breaking point in order to get the best results.

Rather than highest settings, they should stop people playing with settings to simply gain an advantage. Turning up the brightness isn't going to help with performance of course.

Also, these people are "so-called" pros, they can end up earning a lot of money from what they do, of course they can afford a decent PC.

Say people are playing in a tornament, they shold have the same PCs set to the same settings and not be allowed to change the settings.

 

[kylew]

personally i think locking high res for competative matchs gives more an advantage than running in low res.

as the players with more money that can afford the best hardware are going to have an advantage.

at least with lower res, everyone has the option to set the low res, regardless of thier hardware.

i dont really see y ppl have a problem with pros running at lower res, if you not a pro, then it wont effect you in anyway

It's not just he low res, it's turning all settings down to the lowest as well.

 

['Wes]

Too true.

I also remember when gamers would adjust their FOV to see all around them

They still do and i do it in every game that allows me to do it.

 

[orderoftheflame]

Also, these people are "so-called" pros, they can end up earning a lot of money from what they do, of course they can afford a decent PC.

Whilst the people that win the tournaments make a lot of money, not all of them are rolling in it.

Say people are playing in a tornament, they shold have the same PCs set to the same settings and not be allowed to change the settings.

And who's providing these hundreds of computers for a tournament that run identically on the same settings? The competitors? The organisers?

What if you want to enter two tournaments (or more) with different specifications laid out? You need two PCs? Sounds expensive to me...

Rofling at all these people calling them "so-called pros". They're professionals, they make a living from what they do, get over it. Just sounds like jealousy to me.

 

['Wes]

People like this are so pathetic.

I would never do it because i like seeing things in full detail, but it's still an acceptable and understandable thing to do considering the competition in a clan match.

 

['Wes]

Rather than highest settings, they should stop people playing with settings to simply gain an advantage. Turning up the brightness isn't going to help with performance of course.

Also, these people are "so-called" pros, they can end up earning a lot of money from what they do, of course they can afford a decent PC.

Say people are playing in a tornament, they shold have the same PCs set to the same settings and not be allowed to change the settings.

It's all down to personal preference, you would also probably say that they should have the exact same key configuration and the exact same hardware, clothing etc. You're obviously a person who calls for hacks everytime you die or lose in a game, probably against NPC's as well.

 

[orderoftheflame]

You're obviously a person who calls for hacks everytime you die or lose in a game, probably against NPC's as well.

I had a similar thought.

 

[Delboy]

/turns down settings in BC2 to 800x600 and low detail.

 

[kylew]

It's all down to personal preference, you would also probably say that they should have the exact same key configuration and the exact same hardware, clothing etc. You're obviously a person who calls for hacks everytime you die or lose in a game, probably against NPCs as well.

I'm actually not . I play games for fun, not to "be the best". I can't people taking games too seriously, there's no need. Clearly you're defending these people probably because you do the same thing yourself.

 

[orderoftheflame]

I'm actually not . I play games for fun, not to "be the best". I can't people taking games too seriously, there's no need. Clearly you're defending these people probably because you do the same thing yourself.

If you play games for fun, why do you care how professional tournaments are played?

I don't run low settings, but I see why competitive players would. It's a no brainer.