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What's the best budget AMD CPU for gaming?

ALXAndy said:
1. Socket AM3+ was launched in 2011. AMD are still releasing CPUS for it. That's four years. Try saying that about any Intel socket ever.

2. Intel CPUs run far hotter than AMD CPUs.

Power argument - yawn. Read the PCPER review, it's certainly nothing to worry about.
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AMD have been stuck on 32nm AM3+ since 2011 yes. This is a failure, since they cannot compete with Intel's offerings. Take a look at their profits for 2014 and you'll see the lost so much revenue from CPU's compared to previous years.

The only AMD CPU that can compete with the midrange CPU's from Intel are the 8350 clocked at 5Ghz, or the 9590 which is pre overclocked to 5GHZ. These CPU's have over 220W TDP at these speeds/voltages, and they still get beaten by stock I7's, which run far cooler at stock and consume less electricity.
 
meldarthx said:
*sighs* again someone asks about AMD cpus; people come in recommending other things like Pent G series; while its ave frames are decent; when frame pacing and mim frames are show its utter crap.....

Once you start overclocking; any care about power is out the window. Honestly AMD cpus are a lot stronger than most people know; specially those that haven't used one in while or ever and just parotting what they hear......
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Oh my god.. someone that does not conform and is not the same old same old poster!!! *runs away in disbelief* :D

Andy you got a link for the PCPER review?

mmj_uk said:
...and although Intel's latest chips "run hot" (as in reported temperature) they do so by design with much less cooling required, less noise and significantly less stress on the motherboard (which in 99% of cases are the first thing to fail in a computer) which is why I tend to recommend quality boards rather than value ones, particularly with demanding CPU's like AMD FX.
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Why do people do this? Rubbish facts like 99% of the time its the motherboard!! That's laughable - it really is. Then again this is to be expected when you have a biased point to push. What also goes against the anti-AMD mantra is the fact intel is really only considerable in the budget end due to being able to pick up a board for cheap. If you went top of the line then you are actually playing into the AMD choice with FX territory. A quality board is worth it for overclocking features and decent components much like the PSU, this I agree with.

Intel are only attractive at the bottom end if you can go cheap on the motherboard and NOT have to buy a cooler to overclock.
 
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ok let's say I will be buying a aio watercooler anyway and, limited to a 500w psu, a gtx960.

cpu+board options, oc'd @ around £130

6300 + 78LMT-usb3
G3258 + z97 board
8350 + 990fx (2nd hand. Actually that might be pushing £130 a little)
2500k and board (2nd hand)

I'm leaning towards the 2nd hand 2500k (or 2600K and swap with mine)

Anything else?

Yes, I am aware the thread title said AMD which was because I didn't know much about their end of the market. But I have now read up on the options raised in the thread and nothing is wowing me (the Z97 upgrade path is worth considering I suppose)
 
How about Z97 with G3258 for your daughter now, then upgrade the CPU later.

But when it comes to upgrading the G3258, make the old switcheroo and take the Z97+decent CPU as yours and hand down the 2500k and mb to your daughter?

If that makes sense.
 
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Dave2150 said:
The only AMD CPU that can compete with the midrange CPU's from Intel are the 8350 clocked at 5Ghz, or the 9590 which is pre overclocked to 5GHZ. These CPU's have over 220W TDP at these speeds/voltages, and they still get beaten by stock I7's, which run far cooler at stock and consume less electricity.
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Let's analyse this for a second. 5Ghz is a sunny day situation with good cooling. Most however run comfortably above 4.5Ghz, even the lowest offering - the FX8320/E.

Of course they should get beaten by I7's considering the price difference (and consume less energy and run cooler)! You are comparing apples to oranges. 8 AMD cores for £100-150 vs intels £250-500.

By your logic, let's compare the 290X to the 75oTi... :rolleyes:
 
Dave2150 said:
AMD have been stuck on 32nm AM3+ since 2011 yes. This is a failure, since they cannot compete with Intel's offerings. Take a look at their profits for 2014 and you'll see the lost so much revenue from CPU's compared to previous years.

The only AMD CPU that can compete with the midrange CPU's from Intel are the 8350 clocked at 5Ghz, or the 9590 which is pre overclocked to 5GHZ. These CPU's have over 220W TDP at these speeds/voltages, and they still get beaten by stock I7's, which run far cooler at stock and consume less electricity.
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Actually they have been stuck on 28nm for just over a year. As GF took forever to get their 28nm Shp process up together. It still doesn't have the clock room in comparison to their 32nm but it has great desnity, As the clock rates are so poor on this process, I believe it's the reason why you'll never see Steamroller or Excavator on Am3+.

Amd will compete with Intel in the notebook soc market this year, But they will struggle for many obvious reasons we've talked about over the last 6-8 years. The days of cpu's are slowly evolving into the Apu's and I can't wait as when software catches up we'll see huge potential in gaming and gpu-cpu computational tasks.
 
Davedree said:
The days of cpu's are slowly evolving into the Apu's and I can't wait as when software catches up we'll see huge potential in gaming and gpu-cpu computational tasks.
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Agreed. Whilst I will not blow their trumpet quite yet, AMD still look in a better position to deliver on APU's and the HSA architecture if they keep momentum on this.

When I built this budget rig in 2013 I was holding out for kaveri - possibly being too optimistic. When I read the delays and it not being as meaty as the hype I bought the FX. It was actually a good decision (getting the FX) considering I am now well over a year with little development in the cpu market.

It looks like a good stop gap option (maybe not for new users purchasing right now) as approaching 2017 I can weigh up the next upgrade path to something substantial.
 
UPDATE:

Fitted a 280x over the weekend and oc'd the 5600k to 4.1ghz

It's ok in dayz epoch but does drop a fair bit in the cities to below 30fps even with the gfx settings dialled back a bit (but I am assuming this is more cpu related)

I know the arma ii engine if pretty poorly optimised but my 2500k @ 4.6 with 290 is very smooth.

As previously suggested, getting a Z97 board and a G3528 would go towards an overall upgrade route but would it close the gap significantly from what the 5600k is giving me now?
 
Just thought I'd post , God knows how or why but dayz @ 1080p with 100% rendering on my little g3258 paired with a 270x is more playable then my 5820k & 980sli ( custom profile ) or with SLI off , g3258 @ stock more then upto task ... Only game I've had problems with it was dieng light ... But it's poorley optimised or highly threaded am unsure .

My 6100 & 660 is my preferable lower end platform outa the two tho , 6100 even though still bulldozer is a little multitasking monster
 
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Thanks. Worth trying then

Anyone got a Z97 board recommendation for a budget build? MSI pc mate? asus z97 P? Sli not required
 
I had discounted the 8320 because it is more expensive and offers no upgrade potential. With that in mind it would need to be a significantly faster in the target games which I am not convinced it is?

I'm happy to consider it though if anyone has any compelling reason.

When I mention upgrade path I am referring to eventually purchasing a i5/i7k and swapping the Z97 board with the 2500k currently in my machine
 
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