Wheel balancing weights

I've mentioned before that my mate owns/runs a Tyre & Exhaust place with his family.
When I've been down there I have seen the Younger lads balance a wheel up & stick a crap load of lead on it to balance it, My mate or one of the older dudes comes along Laughs sticks it back on the machine, Busts off all the weights & balances it with a quarter of the lead. ;)
I don't know what they do different but I do know there are two ways to achieve a Balanced wheel/tyre. One takes a Crap load of lead & one don't.
Take it back & get one of the more experienced Dudes to balance them again.
 
Lol @above.
Just a small thought; the newer lead-free weights (often zinc) do tend to be a bit bigger to get the same weight as older lead stick-ons.

If the operator doesn't get the weight in the right place to start with then they can't move it along as it's stuck on, so they often just add weights to another part of the wheel to compensate for the wrong positioning of the first weight. The correct way is to remove and start again by fitting the weights correctly, but the fitter will likely get a row of their boss for wasting weights.

You can also balance the wheel along it's centreline using weights in one position or balance by positioning weights on the inner and outer(sometimes just inside the wheel spokes) edges of the wheel. Centre balancing is neater
 
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I've mentioned before that my mate owns/runs a Tyre & Exhaust place with his family.
When I've been down there I have seen the Younger lads balance a wheel up & stick a crap load of lead on it to balance it, My mate or one of the older dudes comes along Laughs sticks it back on the machine, Busts off all the weights & balances it with a quarter of the lead. ;)
I don't know what they do different but I do know there are two ways to achieve a Balanced wheel/tyre. One takes a Crap load of lead & one don't.
Take it back & get one of the more experienced Dudes to balance them again.

Every place I have used over the last 15 years has a machine which tells the operator exactly how much weight is required and where to place it. I cannot see how two operators can get different amounts of weight on the wheel for the same balance unless the first isn't actually putting the weights in the correct position and then correcting by adding more.

Jamous said:
Lol @above.
Just a small thought; the newer lead-free weights (often zinc) do tend to be a bit bigger to get the same weight as older lead stick-ons.

If the operator doesn't get the weight in the right place to start with then they can't move it along as it's stuck on, so they often just add weights to another part of the wheel to compensate for the wrong positioning of the first weight. The correct way is to remove and start again by fitting the weights correctly, but the fitter will likely get a row of their boss for wasting weights.

You can also balance the wheel along it's centreline using weights in one position or balance by positioning weights on the inner and outer(sometimes just inside the wheel spokes) edges of the wheel. Centre balancing is neater

Just sticking the weights round the centre line will only get the static balancing correct. You also need to get the dynamic balance sorted which requires weights to be placed away from the centre line.
 
I'd get them to redo it

We have a friendly tyre fitter and he says that if you haven't mounted the tyre quite right to begin with on the wheel you need loads of weights. If you take it off and mount it again then you'll need far less. You shouldn't ever need that many weights to balance a tyre!
 
I wonder how they can balance it at all by sticking weights on top of weights? I must admit I've never seen that done before.

Surely the upper level of weights being offset from the rim by a few mm (or whatever the thickness of the weights are) would be another element that would have to be accounted for?
 
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