When are you going fully electric?
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It's a different mindset. Tesla are built with weight reduction in mind for efficiency getting more range out of a battery.
A Golf and ID isn't a valid comparison because the ID3 is more similar to Tesla making everything lighter to get more from the battery, and cost savings, to maximise the range from the battery and the cost of the battery. But then they used these savings to put a bigger battery in.
Trying to compare with how ICE vehicles are built makes no sense it's a completely different paradigm.
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58kwh id3 vs 60kwh Tesla. The 77kwh id3 is 100kg heavier again
Reminds me of a drag race video of a Model Y vs an I-Pace. The Model Y was declared a winner despite being left off the line by the I-Pace, because after about 10 seconds it eventually overtook the I-Pace. By the time the Model Y caught the I-Pace, both cars were doing well over 100 mph. On research I found out the I-Pace was reaching its software imposed speed limit of 127 mph. The Model Y goes to 136 mph and of course this is why it eventually overtook the I-Pace. Of course this was not mentioned in the video.
You can make stats prove anything to people who can’t do proper research.
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Maybe it would be more useful to post something other than statistics, like why you posted that.
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I posted enough on this topic already. Including a 58kwh id3 weight vs a golf
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Nissan looking good to start the V2G/V2H revolution soon(ish).
www.autoexpress.co.uk
If this is true then people will really be on to a winner "Nissan aims to offer its bi-directional charger “at a price comparable to a mono-directional charger available today”.
Nissan to democratise V2G technology with next-generation EVs | Auto Express
New Sunderland-built Nissan Leaf will support brand’s ambition for net zero, while lowering bills for customers
www.autoexpress.co.uk
If this is true then people will really be on to a winner "Nissan aims to offer its bi-directional charger “at a price comparable to a mono-directional charger available today”.
It was easier to explain your point than post more numbers.
His point was simple, if you want to compare ICE and EV platforms with vehicles that are actually comparable in most ways because they're same manufacturer and same segment, the Golf and ID3 are a good comparison.
Unlike the Model 3 vs M3 or Model Y vs XC90 nonsense so far.
Unlike the Model 3 vs M3 or Model Y vs XC90 nonsense so far.
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My point is exactly that. Stats prove nothing without some actual research.
Yes there was a claim made that VW put a bigger battery in for range. They didnt
U have driven lots of EV test cars at work,and for long 500mile trips sometimes. I recall having a model 3 LR and my mum got in it. First comment was it feels cheap. And within a mile it was ‘like being on a horse and cart’. It was fast but felt so wooden. Jumping back in the CUPRA felt like a proper car again. And I didn’t need to empty 20l water out of it
Deuce my 4l v8 DCT 3 series weighs 1640kg. My born 1840kg
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Nissan looking good to start the V2G/V2H revolution soon(ish).
Nissan to democratise V2G technology with next-generation EVs | Auto Express
New Sunderland-built Nissan Leaf will support brand’s ambition for net zero, while lowering bills for customers
If this is true then people will really be on to a winner "Nissan aims to offer its bi-directional charger “at a price comparable to a mono-directional charger available today”.
V2G is interesting but I can't but think it's both confusing for the average consumer to get any value from it considering the draw backs. But also perhaps a bit pointless holistically.
Read the earlier posts !! And don’t make stuff up
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My own experience of a few Model 3s has not been great. Noisy, cheap and uncomfortable.
The quality of a 2019 Model 3 was utterly shocking. So bad for wind noise I thought a window might not be closed properly. The version I test drove in 2022 was much better but still felt cheap and bland in the interior.
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Golf and ID3 are in no way comparable except very superficially.
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How so ? Perfect for the topic. ICE vs ground up EV
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Eh? What draw backs? Why is it a bit pointless? It will be one of the most important changes to reach a true fully renewables supplied grid in the not too distant future.
What do you think the drawbacks are?
Given the battery will outlast the car, along as the warranty is somewhat sensible and some sensible limits are put around discharge cycles, I’m not really sure what the issue would be.
The vast majority of people are going to be DNO limited anyway, particularly given export limits are first come first served.