When are you going fully electric?

on the smart/dumb/which charger decision front, like for a new ev purchase - future proofing for V2G capability is another be prepared (haven't heard if tesla is planning anything, )
you can’t future proof the charger because they don’t really exist yet.

The only thing you can do is stick a cable in the ground that is thick enough to handle any realistic load you can expect to need.

If you are going as far as spending several thousand £ on ground works, lay a thick cable, say at least 10mm. The marginal cost over a 6mm is small in the grand scheme of things.

While you have the hole open, drop in 2 CAT5e or CAT6 SWA cables. One for CTs, one for network connectivity. This cable is pretty cheap.
 
I think I've been missing something with the Teslas. Never really saw the appeal, mundane looking, uninspiring interior, seemingly poor QC.

They are generally the best for software, range, efficiency, charging, performance and space for the price they sell at.

Personally - I will happily pay more for an Audi/BMW/Polestar/BYD/Zeekr which might be worse in one or more of the above categories, but it will look better/unique and won't come with some annoying aspects - e.g. the auto wipers and parking cameras will work properly :)
 
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Hi all,

I'll likely be getting an ev soon and so am looking at charger options. I've had a look at what I can get through my energy supplier (Scottish Power) and they don't seem the best so I am looking externally. I'd prefer a tethered charger and I like the look of the hyper volt home 3 pro which is £1,150 installed (installation should be standard). However, through work I get a 10% discount at halfords and have seen they have a cord charger that'd be £790 installed. I've seen the hyper volt on some 10 ten reviews but haven't seen the cord much. It seems to have good trust pilot scores but does anyone have one or know if they are good. Is the hypervolt £350 better than the cord?
 
It’s not just the charger, you also need to consider the tariff and how the charger integrates with that.

Hypervolt enables you to access two of the most popular smart tariffs in the country (Octopus Intelligent Go and Ovo Anytime). The other charger doesn’t.

if you know someone who is already on octopus, ask them for their referral code and you’ll get £50 to switch. Ovo is probably the same.

Edit: Eon Drive next is also popular, no ‘clever’ charger needed.
 
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Seen a 1yr old elec car we might look at, has 23k miles on it, so well over average.
What's the crack with high mileage in a short term, same applies as ICE?
We don't do many mile either.
 
I've never really cared too much about how the outside looks, much more how it is on the inside, comfort etc. Other people look at your car when you are in it, not you. Not saying I like the old Y blob, but it wasn't either offensive, and clearly lots of people do like it (or think like me) as it as the 5th best selling car in the UK last year, and the best selling EV.

Surely the outside looks has some part to play in the decision? I could never drive a fugly car, If I lock the car and walk away from it, when i look back at it, it has to stir my loins, even at a low level :p
 
Seen a 1yr old elec car we might look at, has 23k miles on it, so well over average.
What's the crack with high mileage in a short term, same applies as ICE?
We don't do many mile either.
No comparison to ICE in terms of usage over time as the electric motor doesn't care how it's been used. The Only thing to consider might be that the car will probably have been DC fast charged for a lot of it's life on that mileage and that might, theoretically, have affected the battery health. Having said that, reports recently suggest that battery degradation is not something to really worry about in the normal lifespan of modern cars. If it is cheaper than other lower mileage cars and it has been looked after in terms of trim and exterior paintwork/alloys then it would not worry me.
 
Surely the outside looks has some part to play in the decision? I could never drive a fugly car, If I lock the car and walk away from it, when i look back at it, it has to stir my loins, even at a low level :p

Dude, we have an OG Ioniq, they are fugly according to everyone, including all the taxi drivers that have one. :D

I'd say it is lower down on the priority list, I am not saying we'd buy a Fiat Multipla, that is pretty extreme, but also I never understand why people get excited by ultra bland Audi A4's and gush over them, and fugly BMW's with grills the size of a small town. Really if you are getting a generic family car, then surely looks aren't that high up the list?
 
Reports on one thing but posts of people with 50k mile cars and 88-89% SoH suggest there is battery degradation
 
Reports on one thing but posts of people with 50k mile cars and 88-89% SoH suggest there is battery degradation
No one is denying that battery degradation exists, just that it is far less of a problem than has been suggested in some corners of the media.
 
If I lock the car and walk away from it, when i look back at it,
you don't need to look back if you have keyless entry ...but doesn't Musk's politics come into purchase decision too (I'd never buy a dyson, and also garish)

..even if they are bidir it seems

Tesla Model Y Bidirectional DC Charging

Ambibox released a video today showcasing a 2024 Tesla Model Y charging and discharging DC power via an Ambibox bidirectional charger, proving both the Model 3 and Model Y have integrated V2H and V2G functionality.
 
you don't need to look back if you have keyless entry ...but doesn't Musk's politics come into purchase decision too (I'd never buy a dyson, and also garish)

..even if they are bidir it seems
You'd never buy an EV at this rate so not sure thats an argument :)
 
No comparison to ICE in terms of usage over time as the electric motor doesn't care how it's been used. The Only thing to consider might be that the car will probably have been DC fast charged for a lot of it's life on that mileage and that might, theoretically, have affected the battery health. Having said that, reports recently suggest that battery degradation is not something to really worry about in the normal lifespan of modern cars. If it is cheaper than other lower mileage cars and it has been looked after in terms of trim and exterior paintwork/alloys then it would not worry me.
This has 23k miles, something with maybe 3k to 6k miles is only £2k more, so it's not a lot more and maybe worth it.
Yes, I'd imagine it's probably been DC rapid charged as you say, to get all those miles in.
Hmmmmm.....
 
This has 23k miles, something with maybe 3k to 6k miles is only £2k more, so it's not a lot more and maybe worth it.
Yes, I'd imagine it's probably been DC rapid charged as you say, to get all those miles in.
Hmmmmm.....

£2k is a charger install and 14200+ kWh of electricity, or over 40k miles at 7p and 3mpkWh.
 
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You can do 200 miles a day with overnight 7kW charging. Wouldn’t assume all DC
I was just coming here to say this. I’d probably go as far as saying it’s probably not had that much DC at all.

Don’t forget DC is £lol compared to home charging and there are not that many people who actually use them regularly because of this.

23k is under 100 miles a day, 5 days a week with no other milage outside of that. If you’ve got a 50 mile commute and it’s at your own cost, you are going to want to be in an EV.

In a year or so, I’m expecting to have to start doing a 160 miles, a few days a week. I wouldn’t touch a DC charger once and I’ll be clearing that kind of milage a year.
 
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