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Can I ask why everything has to be a 'beater' of something else? In that comparison the Megane is nothing like an ID3. Just because cars are electric the reviewers seem to assume that they are all the same. Some people like suv's , some like hatches, some like saloons. etc, etc.
 
gailjon said:
Can I ask why everything has to be a 'beater' of something else? In that comparison the Megane is nothing like an ID3. Just because cars are electric the reviewers seem to assume that they are all the same. Some people like suv's , some like hatches, some like saloons. etc, etc.
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Come on now, there's no place for common sense on the internet
 
Figures for registrations are now out for February.

BEV up 196.3% YoY with 10,417 or 17.7% of total registrations, and PHEV are up 48.9% YoY to 4,677 or 7.9% of total registrations. YTD, so only 2 months and BEV is at 14.3% market share, and PHEV 7.9%. Obviously a low registration month as well, but in the top 5 cars were both the Tesla Model 3 and the Tesla Model Y.

Lets see what March brings with the new registrations, it could be well above 15%, possibly as high as 20% for BEV alone.
 
Spent a few days with the Mrs looking at Electric vehicles and trying to justify it to ourselves. We only have one child and don't really need anything more than a small suv type size and boot. But I just can't make the maths work no matter how much I try and lie to myself.

I do about 16,000 miles per year as she does about 6k now with working from home! So I spend about £150-200 a month on fuel. I will wait and look at the new Niro but she didn't like the EV6 at all and she liked the Kona, which although the boot is **** poor it's not like we will use it for shopping or holidays in this country. I really liked the drive, I was surprised tbh how much I enjoyed it.

But still it's £12k more than best petrol version. It's a lot more and would take me a long while to spend that on fuel. Or looking at the depreciation rather than new cost the gap is still £7k. If I PCP'd it, well then it's a difference of £160 a month but that's not taking into account how much the charging would add to my electric bill. I haven't even looked at that yet. My sister has a BMW IX3 M sport and says she has worked her's out at £24 for 350 miles. What's the rough cost's per mile I would be looking at home charging? I just looked and I'm paying 19p kw/h.

We really liked the Enyak but in reality it's much bigger than I need and the leather in the model we looked at in the rear was pretty poor build quality.
 
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Nah just I tire of Journey sensationalism on the numbers each time there’s an EV peak. Most UK sales will tend to hold the March 1st for that legacy sales model of legacy cars.

mate I had a mk1 Honda Insight in 2010 so what ever point you are trying to make there I ain’t your target. When did you have a V8 to be able to buy one again anyway.

im talking supplier issues, particularly Ukraine effects wiring supply of a large amount of VW product and on this thread for atleast 12 months the facts of supply and demand across the market is consistently and repeatedly ignored by the same voices. You don’t really need to wade in.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Nah just I tire of Journey sensationalism on the numbers each time there’s an EV peak. Most UK sales will tend to hold the March 1st for that legacy sales model of legacy cars.

mate I had a mk1 Honda Insight in 2010 so what ever point you are trying to make there I ain’t your target. When did you have a V8 to be able to buy one again anyway.

im talking supplier issues, particularly Ukraine effects wiring supply of a large amount of VW product and on this thread for atleast 12 months the facts of supply and demand across the market is consistently and repeatedly ignored by the same voices. You don’t really need to wade in.
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dannyjo22 said:
What's the rough cost's per mile I would be looking at home charging? I just looked and I'm paying 19p kw/h.
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Work out the average mpkWh of the vehicle you are looking at then, divide the number of miles you do by that figure, and use the result to multiply by the cost per kWh of electricity.

So as an example only using 16000/4 = 4000, then 4000*£0.19 = £760/12 for monthly average = £63.33.

You can look at specific off peak EV tariffs if you are using 4000kWh, on top of your normal usage, but you need to know how many kWh you use in the hours where it is more expensive to see if it is worthwhile. Using the same calculation as above but with the 7.5ppkWh you can get, then you would be looking at £300 per year or £25 per month, but your peak usage would go up by ~£0.11per kWh, so if you use more than 4000kWh in the 365 days during the period of 04:30 to 00:00 each day then you'd be worse off, and again this also depends on how long you are locked to that tariff at 19ppkWh.
 
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Worth to consider: Factor in an AC charger fed from a typical home EVSE is only about 86-91% efficient.
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Where is that data from? I just checked and my charger/car is 96-98% consistently. It only shows as lower if I preheat and precondition.

Example, my last decent charge:
Added 29.95 kWh
Used 30.87 kWh
Temp: 8.9°C
22%-60%
 
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FerretBoy said:
Is that without pre heating or preconditioning?
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That's its charging efficiency, a Model 3 reports how much DC as been added to the battery within a charging session and my charger also reports how much it delivers to the car. I just looked at last nights charging session on my chargers app and how much the car reported was added. The Model 3's charger is about as good as it gets in the real world.

There was no pre-conditioning happening for those two measurements but they may be some rounding error as the model 3 doesn't display decimals.

As journey said, 90% is cutting edge, 96-98% would be considered a serious breakthrough in the scientific/engineering world at ambient temperatures.

I guess what you are probably seeing is a measurement error between your chargers AC measure and your car measuring its AC input which is pretty sneaky.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
As journey said, 90% is cutting edge, 96-98% would be considered a serious breakthrough in the scientific/engineering world at ambient temperatures.

I guess what you are probably seeing is a measurement error between your chargers AC measure and your car measuring its AC input which is pretty sneaky.
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woah, woah, woah! :cry::cry:
 
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