When are you going fully electric?

Journey said:
The amount of energy those things use is tiny, especially on such a short trip.
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tHAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, THANKS.

Jonnycoupe said:
Indeed warmer weather is nice as the car heater isn't working its nuts off warming 90kWh of battery up. This is also where smaller battery cars/PHEVs benefit.

Wireless charging :D
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The amount of heat my phone generates after 50 minutes on wireless charging i expected to have used 1kWh at least!

In fact my phone said that certain functions were unavailable due to the high heat! I could barely pick the phone up from the charging pad.
 
Greebo said:
tHAT'S GOOD TO KNOW, THANKS.



The amount of heat my phone generates after 50 minutes on wireless charging i expected to have used 1kWh at least!

In fact my phone said that certain functions were unavailable due to the high heat! I could barely pick the phone up from the charging pad.
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Yes, some inductive chargers get quite hot running at the higher power side of things, gone are the days of 5w, are the ones in your car rated at 30w or more?
 
Greebo said:
21 of the 30 miles each day is done on pure electric. I can currently get to and from work on a full charge. Av mpg is impressive at 64.8 (although I saw it drop to 8mpg when I pulled out onto the dual carriage until I got up to speed!) and so is the 3.4kW per mile on the pure EV.
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My old Passat PHEV used to divide the energy use over the total journey. You'd get some hilarious numbers for miles/kWh if you drove to Cornwall :D

Does the BMW do it more sensibly than this?
 
chanjy said:
My old Passat PHEV used to divide the energy use over the total journey. You'd get some hilarious numbers for miles/kWh if you drove to Cornwall :D

Does the BMW do it more sensibly than this?
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I think it does. It looks to me like it just counts when its on full EV and how much juice it used.
 
Journey said:
Yes, some inductive chargers get quite hot running at the higher power side of things
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it's pretty inefficient versus plugging, can be 2x the energy; I'm surprised their use hasn't been correlated with long term phone reliability.

X5 45e what is the engine warm up strategy ? do you manually suppress it's use until you arrive at a free flowing road.

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Symons Tesla Model Y review after 1100 miles of family life. The good, the bad and the long term efficiency
 
jpaul said:
it's pretty inefficient versus plugging, can be 2x the energy; I'm surprised their use hasn't been correlated with long term phone reliability.

X5 45e what is the engine warm up strategy ? do you manually suppress it's use until you arrive at a free flowing road.

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Symons Tesla Model Y review after 1100 miles of family life. The good, the bad and the long term efficiency
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My strategy is to do nothing and let the car sort itself out. Its about 7 miles before I get to a road where the engine comes on. Until then I'm on electric only.
 
Greebo said:
My strategy is to do nothing and let the car sort itself out. Its about 7 miles before I get to a road where the engine comes on. Until then I'm on electric only.
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Does the X5 not have "Max eDrive" mode?

With the courtesy X1 (that I've had since October now...) I mainly drive on Max eDrive, so the engine would only kick in if I were to push the throttle past the kickdown switch.
 
jpaul said:
did you have no choice ? ... but I think in the UK there is a changing style for interior house decoration - strong sombre colours in living rooms so maybe car interiors are sympathetic.
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Yes at the time when we started the order, but price was extra £650 to upgrade wasn't going to pay that, anyway we got use to it now:)
 
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paradigm said:
Does the X5 not have "Max eDrive" mode?

With the courtesy X1 (that I've had since October now...) I mainly drive on Max eDrive, so the engine would only kick in if I were to push the throttle past the kickdown switch.
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Probably does but by a different name! Its got too damn many modes if you ask me.

I have the following.

Sport (engine on all the time and battery used to boost all time. Full 396bhp available. )
Electric (I think thats the same as the Max eDrive as keeps it in electric unless you put your foot down hard. Kicks engine on if you power past 40% but you have to push the pedal hard, tries to resist starting the motor)
hybrid (regens the battery when coasting in this mode and will slow down. Also regens going downhill) - will kick in the engine at 35% power and above or above 65mph. Easier to get the engine to fire up than electric mode.
hybrid eco (I notice no regen on coasting in this mode, the vehicle will keep its speed up and coast) as above for engine kick in. Supposed to be more economical than hybrid mode. dont think is uses engine and electric together. If you kick down the engine will take over from the battery so you only have 300bhp to play with and as soon as you stop accelerating it will go back to electric (unless you are travelling too fast)
Adaptive (it decides which of the above modes to use subject to conditions and flips between them)
Battery hold (to keep a certain percentage of battery at destination) Will use engine to add charge to the battery if needed.
And anticipatory hybrid drive which then uses the maps if you enter a destination to give you the maximum economy and basically use up all your battery by the time you get to your destination so will use the battery and engine at different points on the route. It also slows down for junctions and roundabouts and regens the battery. Potentially this should be the most economical.

So in all the hybrid modes I can drive the first 7 miles to work without engaging the engine unless I have a heavy foot. I tend to use hybrid or hybrid eco so far.
 
Had order confirmed for 208e. Bit of a change from an octavia vrs. Hopefully with the petrol savings it will work out cheaper even with my pathetic 3k a year mileage.

Looking at prices of a charge point install I think I will hold for now, maybe until the wife also goes electric.

The car doesn't come with a 3 pin charge cable which I'm going to need. Priced vary it seems from £150-£300. There is one on screwfix for for £150. Is there a difference in quality that justifies an extra £70-£80?
 
utajoker said:
Had order confirmed for 208e. Bit of a change from an octavia vrs. Hopefully with the petrol savings it will work out cheaper even with my pathetic 3k a year mileage.

Looking at prices of a charge point install I think I will hold for now, maybe until the wife also goes electric.

The car doesn't come with a 3 pin charge cable which I'm going to need. Priced vary it seems from £150-£300. There is one on screwfix for for £150. Is there a difference in quality that justifies an extra £70-£80?
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Is the screwfix one the green and white masterplug one? My brother bought that to use with his Corsa-e, nice long cable on it made it usable from a socket at the back of the garage when the car was parked out front.
 
paradigm said:
Is the screwfix one the green and white masterplug one? My brother bought that to use with his Corsa-e, nice long cable on it made it usable from a socket at the back of the garage when the car was parked out front.
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It is. I have a what looks like a rolec wall pod (3 pin plug socket) in the garage that came with the house. It's at the front of the garage so I could feed the wire through the gap and get a plug housing on the outside to holster it. Then I don't have to open the garage every time to charge.

No issues with charge times?
 
utajoker said:
It is. I have a what looks like a rolec wall pod (3 pin plug socket) in the garage that came with the house. It's at the front of the garage so I could feed the wire through the gap and get a plug housing on the outside to holster it. Then I don't have to open the garage every time to charge.

No issues with charge times?
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It might be worth checking what size the supply cable is, if it’s 4mm when you could put in a proper 7kw charge point.

Putting in those 3 pin rolecs is a proper penny pinching cop out given how little extra it costs to put in a 7kw point.
 
utajoker said:
It is. I have a what looks like a rolec wall pod (3 pin plug socket) in the garage that came with the house. It's at the front of the garage so I could feed the wire through the gap and get a plug housing on the outside to holster it. Then I don't have to open the garage every time to charge.

No issues with charge times?
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I’d not want to be relying on 3-pin charging as my main source of home charging. It’s fine for a plug-in hybrid that’ll only take up to around 4 hours to charge on 3-pin, but for a full-blown BEV? No thank you, that’s why we have a 7kW charger installed.

That’s the difference between a 22hr charge and a 7.5hr charge on a 208-e.
 
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