Bear in mind the major oil companies are doing everything they can can to go carbon neutral, which inevitably will mean fuel distribution will migrate over to alternate energy. So even if you have an ICE vehicle the natural disaster might make refuelling the petrol stations a lot harder.
When are you going fully electric?
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It’s a mis-conception that EV will loose charge while idling. In stop and start traffic EV efficiency is great due to regen and low speed. EV efficiency is poor cause high speed due to the significant loss to the aerodynamic drag and the massive energy required to keep a 2-2.5tonne mass going at 70mph.
Not all EVs have the same range or state of charge, it is highly unlikely you have a mass of people queuing up all at one point. Just the same is true that you don’t have a mass of people queuing up at a single petrol station for refuel under these circumstances. Also people don’t all go in one direction.
Floods tend to make all things not work. I think you will find ICE car owners not particularly happy about the situation as well. Not just EV owners
Of course unless your vehicle is amphibious! Then you are laughing while everyone else is crying until you run out of fuel.
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But in Florida the EV is not idling; it's running the EV's air conditioning.
50kWh battery. Aircon is prob 700-1000W on top of 200W to power the car.
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It does, but the difference here is that when you're fleeing a ******* great hurricane you tend to keep a few jerry cans of fuel in your vehicle. Can't do that with EV batteries.
Aircon isn’t as power intense as you think. 1) small space 2) it’s a heat pump so it does more work than the energy input 3) you don’t need to run AC full on etc as you just need to reach a comfortable temperature.
It will drain the battery but to an extent that you run out of it on a journey. As said in the post above, the EV battery is 50kwh. That’s a lot of idling time. Anyway the modern EV’s overall cooling and heating systems are extremely complex. It isn’t a straight forward thing.
EV range is about 150-250miles. I don’t think atm the fleeing range is that big unless you are the muppet who flees into the storm and realise that you are going the wrong way then turn around and go back out.
For the most part isn’t the advice to shelter in place unless you are literally under the eye of the storm?
That said I’m not entirely sure what the relevance is to the U.K. or even Europe as a whole. It seems more like the stuff people pontificate about online rather than actual real life. It’s not like EVs haven’t been a thing in America before the storm. The place is full of Tesla’s.
That said I’m not entirely sure what the relevance is to the U.K. or even Europe as a whole. It seems more like the stuff people pontificate about online rather than actual real life. It’s not like EVs haven’t been a thing in America before the storm. The place is full of Tesla’s.
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Most the cars are trashed anyway in the multi households, today someone shared there washed out Defender. Reality when people are fleeing they take the biggest car they have to carry the most stuff and thats a truck.
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New car finally delivered today through my wife's NHS lease; BMW I4 eDrive 40 M SPORT.
We'd initially ordered an Audi Q4 e-tron sportback but that kept getting pushed back so swapped that to a stock vehicle they had an offer on.
We had an eGolf previously so familiar with electric cars, took it out for a brief drive today and I'm really impressed with it.
We'd initially ordered an Audi Q4 e-tron sportback but that kept getting pushed back so swapped that to a stock vehicle they had an offer on.
We had an eGolf previously so familiar with electric cars, took it out for a brief drive today and I'm really impressed with it.
Good height for activities suggested by this forum.
It looks great and good choice on cancelling the Q4. I had a Q4 on order and was messed around something shocking. In the end I cancelled and opted for an I-Pace and I have been driving it for 4 months now. Would still have been waiting on the Q4.
yes - looks great - win for a well spec'ed 'stock' car - looks like some blue in headlights - lasers ? adaptive/air suspension ?
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How does the I Pace compare to the Q4 in your opinion?
The Q4 is not in the same league on how they drive, or in the luxury feel. The only metrics it wins on is efficiency, slightly better rapid charging speed, and lower price if not leasing.
I had planned to replace my E-Tron 50 with a Q4 50 Sportback but kept getting mucked about. When my E-Tron was in for a service I got a Q4 loaner and it just left me with a sinking feeling. The interior just felt cheap and plasticy with grey glossy plastic everywhere. Though it was the 40 version, so the very mediocre performance was possibly a big factor in my massive change of heart. I had thoughts that I was going to be stuck in a 3 year lease in a car I was no longer remotely impressed with. I was delighted when I was told about yet another order muck up and was able to cancel my Q4 order without penalty.
My biggest issue with the Jaguar is the attrocious customer support. I have been waiting 3 months for a replacement plastic air vent. Thankfully it is nothing serious.
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Interesting, thanks for the feedback. I compared the Q4 and the etron side by side and definitely preferred the etron, but haven't been in the I Pace yet. ix3 is another option but if the timing works I'm probably pinning my hopes on the Polestar 3.
They compete in two different classes so the differences are to be expected. It will be the upcoming Q6 that will be the better comparison, especially so when the fat Etron goes even further upmarket.
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Had my first long trip away after 20 months of i3 ownership and all went to plan. Chargers all working and didn't have to queue although while I was charging at one place there was a brief period where both chargers were in use and this was the case on the way back, both chargers occupied for a short period again.
Gridserve Exeter have a great setup. Twelve 350kW and four 50kW as well as 16 brand new Tesla chargers currently behind barriers. I used a 350kW unit as I didn't see the 50's until I popped in to use the facilities. I also used an Instavolt twice in a McDonalds carpark which was good too. Was a bit concerned when I saw the time remaining reach zero when <80% as I seemed to remember someone getting a fine for overstaying at a McDOnalds so thought it was a "your time's up" counter rather than time left to charge battery to full or 80%, but it when it reached 0 then it just reset to 43mins left.
Massive amount of work to do regarding expanding the charging infrastructure. Away from my main route there were none whatsoever as far as I saw. Saw lots of little towns with businesses that could easily have a couple installed. At my destination, a small West Berks town there were just a few of those Ubitricity street chargers but the parking bays for them were not dedicated to EV charging. i knew this in advance so made sure I had enough charge to get back to a DC charger.
Gridserve Exeter have a great setup. Twelve 350kW and four 50kW as well as 16 brand new Tesla chargers currently behind barriers. I used a 350kW unit as I didn't see the 50's until I popped in to use the facilities. I also used an Instavolt twice in a McDonalds carpark which was good too. Was a bit concerned when I saw the time remaining reach zero when <80% as I seemed to remember someone getting a fine for overstaying at a McDOnalds so thought it was a "your time's up" counter rather than time left to charge battery to full or 80%, but it when it reached 0 then it just reset to 43mins left.
Massive amount of work to do regarding expanding the charging infrastructure. Away from my main route there were none whatsoever as far as I saw. Saw lots of little towns with businesses that could easily have a couple installed. At my destination, a small West Berks town there were just a few of those Ubitricity street chargers but the parking bays for them were not dedicated to EV charging. i knew this in advance so made sure I had enough charge to get back to a DC charger.
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