When are you going fully electric?

[Jonnycoupe]

Have you got an EV jpaul?

 

[Simon]

Zero experience but all the knowledge

 

[SDK^]

Having looked before at ABRP - it doesn't show the details of the bays available at charging stations - so didn't seem a one stop shop,
and , wouldn't allow you to copy stations names from the app to get the details out of another eg zap-map
(A uk station app showing prices under different subscriptions , like the french one I linked would be better
https://fr.chargeprice.app/?poi_id=411b43df-068a-45ba-9aea-3a0df59b59e3&poi_source=chargeprice )

This is true - you do need to spend some time with ABRP setting up your preferred options.

Chargers and Networks

• Network preferences - you can set your preferred charging networks. I set Shell Recharge and Ionity as preferred and BP Pulse as avoid.
• You can also set specific charge sites to avoid if you find they are useless.
• Real time charging availability is in there but it’s one of the premium features. Premium is £5 month/£49 a year. I don’t use public chargers often so combine ZapMap and ABRP when I’m doing a long distance route.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

You can also set the minimum chargers per location.

That said if you are not in a Tesla, it’s probably not sensible to set it above 4 and in reality, the fastest chargers not typically on their own.

 

[glenimp617]

I'd never entertain going to a charger site with less than 8 stalls, maybe 4 in an emergency. There's far too many 2 stall sites, and I guarantee one will be in use, the other one broken

 

[Greebo]

I think some form of road sign reading or a mobile transmitter will need to be built in to supplement the satnav (not a problem some cars already have it)

so that when workers are doing something in the street and need to set up temp restrictions.

of course then there will be the issue with drunk scallies moving the 30 mph limit sign/transmitter and putting on a motorway .

the human element is always going to be the hardest thing to get around, be it them making a mistake, their tomfoolery or them deliberately trying to hack them/cause them to fail etc

Thats exactly how my last two cars have done it...combination of satnav and camera reading signs. In 5 years I have never noticed it to get it wrong once.

Plus in conjunction with the satnav, when on full auto cruise control, its clever enough to slow down for bends, faster than I would take some of my local roads mind you! There is a really tight 90 degree bend near where I live and left on auto my car wants to take it at 52 mph. I let it once, the car took the bend perfectly but I feel more comfortable when I am driving manually to take it at sub 45mph.

So far I have been extremely impressed by the auto cruise control. If they can get auto driving sorted with the edges of roads when there are no white lines then I would be more than happy to let the car drive.

 

[Greebo]

something like 2/3rd of bevs were sold into the bik friendly fleet market - so that 1in6 total, is 1 in 12 or so in private market.

No surprise. It makes sense just purely for the tax breaks. Doesn't matter how much the charging up costs then as with the £1000s saved in tax and other benefits, charging up at 80p per kw is effectively free unless you do big mileage.

 

[Greebo]

whilst i am certain it would make an excellent delivery van... it seems a bit over kill to me.

a bit like a ferrari could be a great organ donor delivery vehicle, but you could probably achieve the same goal just as well but in a far cheaper vehicle.

i may be wrong - going from memory - but i think BYD make the majority of electric commercial vehicles at the moment. I think they even specced out a special model just for amazon, but i may be getting confused with a different company.

reminds me of a guy in the 80s who had a Ferrari and owned cig machines in various nightclubs across the region and went to court with HMRC as he didn't declare his car for tax as he claimed he drove between the clubs in his Ferrari filling up the cig machines so his Ferrari was business use only

 

[Greebo]

I've put nearly 1500 miles on my I Pace and only had it 3 weeks. Yorkshire to West Wales, West Wales to Guildford, up to Gaydon then back down to West Wales.

No problems with charging. First hotel charger was ridiculously expensive at 70p Kwh. Not sure how much the 2nd hotel cost as it hasn't come through yet. Two stops at services for half hour charge each way.

I've also noticed that although tired after 4/5 hours of driving I don't have quite the same fatigue.

My F31 330D didn't quite do 500 for £90 or so. EV still cheaper. Once the charger is installed at home tomorrow the overnight is 7.5p or thereabouts. My usual daily commute is less than 10 miles so the low range isn't that much of an issue.

Also, when I first had the I Pace the range showed only 211 miles. Now it shows 236 miles at 100%. Not sure why it's gone up.

Warmer weather? I have noticed over the last month the ev range on my hybrid has increased from 50 to 60 miles.

 

[jpaul]

Have you got an EV jpaul?

no inline 618 till I die - neighbour opposite had an emasculated cla 45s on trial yesterday..

as Conin Powell said need to be prepared for an EV, or, providing IT support to parents, so understanding best in class charging strategy is useful;
my money is on google maps/Waze predominating with Android Automotive in built (not sure if you can run an emulator to try it)


ev charge time never thought of that

Electric vehicles (EVs) are becoming more popular in recent years, with more manufacturers releasing their own models and more buyers making the switch. However, according to S&P Global, 72% of EVs are purchased by men and only 28% by women — even though overall car purchases are split 50/50.
....
Unlike gas-powered cars, which can be filled up in just a few minutes, Inside Climate News points out that EVs take as much as half an hour to charge, meaning the driver is stuck at the charger for at least that long.

While gas stations usually have attendants close at hand, EV chargers can often be isolated at the far ends of parking lots or in unpleasant neighborhoods. This creates a safety issue for women, who are likely to be more worried about being vulnerable to assault while charging their cars.

“As usual, because men were making most of the decisions, they were not walking through the scenarios,” Andrea Colomina, the sustainable communities program director at Green Latinos, told Inside Climate News. “You have to think through what is the experience of every potential user.”

 

[steve5424]

What a load of nonsense.

 

[Haggisman]

"EVs take as much as half an hour to charge, meaning the driver is stuck at the charger for at least that long."

There is so much wrong with that statement, I don't even know where to start

 

[Firestar_3x]

The odds of Jpaul being some primitive form of computer AI is quite strong....

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Random articles remain as random as ever...

For balance:

New 5 series

601hp i5 M60 tops all-new BMW 5 Series range

BMW has revealed its all-new 5 Series, which goes all-electric for the first time...

www.pistonheads.com

New charging hub in SW.

Osprey opens largest EV charging hub in South West - transportandenergy

Osprey Charging has opened the largest ultra-rapid electric vehicle (EV) charging hub in the South West - a 16-bay dedicated EV re-charging location at Salmon’s Leap, Buckfastleigh which is the company's first land acquisition.

transportandenergy.com

Includes dedicated towing bays
SW and 5 series, i think I know who I'm thinking of

 

[Simon]

no inline 618 till I die - neighbour opposite had an emasculated cla 45s on trial yesterday..

as Conin Powell said need to be prepared for an EV, or, providing IT support to parents, so understanding best in class charging strategy is useful;
my money is on google maps/Waze predominating with Android Automotive in built (not sure if you can run an emulator to try it)


ev charge time never thought of that

You have never thought of Ev charge time ?

 

[jpaul]

... that lengthy charging time might represent a negative for female purchasers - ergh no. - anyway, caught something about it on the radio this morning

 

[sandys]

Includes dedicated towing bays
SW and 5 series, i think I know who I'm thinking of

Pretty handy location for my SW mobile roadblock travels and just over 100 miles from home, about perfect for a full fill and onward travel when we eventually go full EV.

Strawberry fields farm shop too, can gourge myself whilst waiting, perfect

 

[b0rn2sk8]

New charging hub in SW.

Osprey opens largest EV charging hub in South West - transportandenergy

Osprey Charging has opened the largest ultra-rapid electric vehicle (EV) charging hub in the South West - a 16-bay dedicated EV re-charging location at Salmon’s Leap, Buckfastleigh which is the company's first land acquisition.

transportandenergy.com

Includes dedicated towing bays
SW and 5 series, i think I know who I'm thinking of

Is that Kempower based site 800v if it can deliver up to 300kw, that’s new isn’t it?

On the dark gloomy chargers point, there is an element of truth in that. Certainly Mrs Sk8 wouldn’t use a charger in the dark corner of a pub car park if she was on her own. So yes it’s probably a factor but there are a lot of others, particularly when men are much more engaged in both the car and technology markets and I expect that to be a much bigger factor.

 

[chanjy]

Is that Kempower based site 800v if it can deliver up to 300kw, that’s new isn’t it?

On the dark gloomy chargers point, there is an element of truth in that. Certainly Mrs Sk8 wouldn’t use a charger in the dark corner of a pub car park if she was on her own. So yes it’s probably a factor but there are a lot of others, particularly when men are much more engaged in both the car and technology markets and I expect that to be a much bigger factor.

Ken power do have an 800v solution but that’s 600kW shared across 4 posts I think

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Yeah thats the suprise when its been rated at 300kW rather than expected 150kW, prob 920V substation feed from the 3.2MV transformer that went in.