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I take your point, but their reaction is first and foremost that it's not worth spending the money because they don't class it as a functional O/S.
When do you think the XP crowd will finally move on?
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I take your point, but their reaction is first and foremost that it's not worth spending the money because they don't class it as a functional O/S.
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most people will upgrade when they buy new machines. for a lot of home users thats going to mean when the current pc stops working and they go buy a new one. business will go over as needed.
biggest thing helping the xp replacements along is the move to x64. again not making much difference to the regular user.
biggest thing helping the xp replacements along is the move to x64. again not making much difference to the regular user.
So damn true, 2 of my friends who used to be on XP would weekly come to me saying something is wrong with their pc's, Since I built their new pc's & put Vista on it, I haven't heard from them since. Everything works perfectly fine.
I can't wait for the day that XP is completely dropped. I keep thinking to myself shall I go & fix peoples computers that are on XP or not. It is coming to the point of not wanting to touch the damn operating system again.
I think this is probably the answer. XP won't be getting another service pack and by the time mainstream support stops next year, W7 will be one year old.
Now, combine that with the fact that people generally expect at least one service pack and a good couple of years in an operating system before purchasing a new computer or OS ["never buy a new operating system when it first comes out because it won't have been tested enough" as a colleague of mine said] and I imagine W7 could be the next big one for people to migrate to some time in 2010-2012, especially if there are good reports about it. Even if MS bring out their next OS in 2012 people won't get it unless it's hugely different or has some big thing that the average computer user can't afford to miss.
Most people think that their computer is the operating system and seeing as most are driven by news reports and media, a lot of people will go out and buy new computers if they're told W7 is a massive improvement and a great step forward.
I've only heard from them, when the gfx card died and they changed the password on there broadband and wondered why it didn't work anymore.
Until they ditch the monolithic kernel design it won't catch on. Windows is relatively unique/rare in the way it supports device drivers that can be installed and uninstalled at a whim.
That's very true. Lots of people have already moved over to Vista simply because they've bought a new PC, and will probably get 7 when they buy their next one. However, I think there's still a significant minority who are requesting XP on new systems, largely because of the bad press that Vista picked up in the first year or so. In my opinion most of these XP diehards will be won over by 7, both because it seems to perform better on slower systems and - much more importantly for your average PC buyer - because it's shaping up to have a much better reputation than Vista has. Amongst the 'semi-informed' - the people who have some interest in which OS they use, but tend to go on hear-say rather than in-depth knowledge - word of mouth is king.
Should: maybe. Will: not a cat's chance in hell.
a) Despite the protestations of the vocal minority, Linux is not ready for the desktop, and will not be until the average user can configure and administrate his system without having to drop to the command line to do basic things like setting up their wireless card.
b) You greatly overestimate the level of awareness and interest of most PC buyers with regard to Linux. Very few people who buy a PC from Dell or the purple shirts even know what Linux is, let alone have any compulsion to use it. Most people see Windows and their computer as part of the same thing, in the same way that IE is inseparable from the internet. They have no concept in their heads of being able to run an alternative OS. When 80% of Windows users haven't changed their browser from IE, how on earth do you expect a mass migration to Linux to occur?
c) Support, both hardware and software. Lots and lots of things don't run on Linux. (I know this isn't usually Linux's fault. That's a different argument!)
d) The type of user who is going to switch from XP to Linux isn't exactly going to wait until support for XP ends! "Hmm, looks like there's no Malicious Software Removal Tool for XP this month - better install Linux"?
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I've had no reason to move OS yet XP plays games lets me read this forum thats all i want 
Sainsburys still use Win2K for there systems
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I think a lot of XP users should/will go to Linux when support finishes.
Na , ill just upgrade! sod using that
Sainsburys still use Win2K for there systems
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I think a lot of XP users should/will go to Linux when support finishes.
Na , ill just upgrade! sod using that
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I like the way you cut out the rest of my post. I don't know is the answer to your question. By then we will be on DX11 and my pc's will have been upgraded again. Windows 7 might be worth having after SP1 so i might get that for my gaming rig which will then free up the Vista HP 64bit that is dual booting with XP on it.
Ha a typical vista and Linux bashing noob who thinks they know what they are talking about.
Whats with the personal attack? This is why i stay in hardware most of the time. Too many people like you that think they know it all. If you bothered to read properly i actually have Vista dual booting on my gaming pc. You also seem to be in the minority as most people have expressed views similar to my own or even agreed with me.
Hello 'Windows' Forum 
I moved to XP from 98SE when Doom 3 came out, it wouldn't run on 98SE.
I guess my next OS upgrade will be for the same reasons.
I am interested not in the OS but the applications I use on it, if the applications work and meet my requirements, why change?
Linux still has a long way to go, but it is getting there, Ubuntu comes pretty close nowadays, it is very impressive.
I moved to XP from 98SE when Doom 3 came out, it wouldn't run on 98SE.
I guess my next OS upgrade will be for the same reasons.
I am interested not in the OS but the applications I use on it, if the applications work and meet my requirements, why change?
Linux still has a long way to go, but it is getting there, Ubuntu comes pretty close nowadays, it is very impressive.
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Hi pastymuncher, why wait till Service Pack 1? When Windows 7 is released, I would suspect it's going to have very few problems with it since a lot of the problems that Windows Vista experienced when it was first released, especially the compatibility side of things are now resolved and in which you shouldn't have too many problems with Windows 7 because Microsoft aren't making any breaking changes to it unlike they did in Windows Vista.
If people can't simply put a well reasoned argument together to challenge your views, just ignore them to be honest.
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I tend to use the OS that comes with my PC, I have never had the opportunity to build my own PC, did duel boot into XP/Linux once.
Saying that I may have a serious look at windows 7 when it comes out officially, am running Vista 32 at the moment and from what I have heard my laptop can only get faster
Rich
Saying that I may have a serious look at windows 7 when it comes out officially, am running Vista 32 at the moment and from what I have heard my laptop can only get faster
Rich
Personally, I think anyone that Games should get Vista now, or Windows 7 for DX10.
And for those who are going to say it's rubbish and not worth it, you can always just run the .exe in XP SP2 compatibility = DX9. Win win!
I've been happy with Vista in the last few months... it took a few weeks to get used to, but yeah, no massive problems.
I personally think that some people just hate change.
And for those who are going to say it's rubbish and not worth it, you can always just run the .exe in XP SP2 compatibility = DX9.
Win win!I've been happy with Vista in the last few months... it took a few weeks to get used to, but yeah, no massive problems.
I personally think that some people just hate change.
Not a chance in hell. It's complicated, ill-supported both hardware and games and most importantly a mind field to just navigate, to what in windows is simple commands and configurations.
nope people say i have xp it runs well why pay 70+ quid +hassle of reinstalling all your apps.
so tell me why upgrade when xp runs fine?
Personally, I think anyone that Games should get Vista now, or Windows 7 for DX10.
And for those who are going to say it's rubbish and not worth it, you can always just run the .exe in XP SP2 compatibility = DX9.
I've been happy with Vista in the last few months... it took a few weeks to get used to, but yeah, no massive problems.
I personally think that some people just hate change.
which games are dx10
I strongly disagree.
Vista has only been out for 2 years, and many people around the world have computers which are over 2 years old. If they go out and buy a new PC today (or anytime up until Win7 is out), chances are it will come with Vista.
The fact is, for many 'non-enthusiast' users, the idea of changing their OS probably never even occurs to them. My dad runs WinXP and not once has he ever mooted the idea to me about changing it. The reason he is still on XP isn't because he has a problem with Vista, or any particular affinity with XP, it's just that it's not really something which concerns him.