When does 4k become mainstream? I'm looking for a new TV and can't decide if I need 4k. Will you hel
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the 65" 4K sony i saw at my mates is one of the best tv's i've ever seen and i've owned 2 top of the range panny plasma panels.
but it still comes down to there is no real content for it so he may as well have bought the 1080p version.
it's like buying a lpg hybrid car with no lpg station near you so you keep filling it up with petrol hoping that station starts selling lpg soon. why not just buy a petrol car and wait for them to start selling lpg before switching?
but it still comes down to there is no real content for it so he may as well have bought the 1080p version.
it's like buying a lpg hybrid car with no lpg station near you so you keep filling it up with petrol hoping that station starts selling lpg soon. why not just buy a petrol car and wait for them to start selling lpg before switching?
Certainly possible, can't say I've tried it myself. I don't know though when you get down to lower screen sizes, certainly 40" isn't that huge.
Shame they could not rip that X reality sony chip and install into the samsung tvs
This may not be remotely on the same level but I spotted this potplayer DSR tweak guide here:
http://wiki.mikejung.biz/PotPlayer_DSR
If you got an modern Nvidia gpu with DSR you can boost and upscale content in low rez to high rez to make the picture more sharper and clearer, no idea if it works but may try later on....
unlikely but we all fell for it with dvd players, but no doubt some manufacturers will use it as an advertising tool.
Shame they could not rip that X reality sony chip and install into the samsung tvs
This may not be remotely on the same level but I spotted this potplayer DSR tweak guide here:
http://wiki.mikejung.biz/PotPlayer_DSR
If you got an modern Nvidia gpu with DSR you can boost and upscale content in low rez to high rez to make the picture more sharper and clearer, no idea if it works but may try later on....
had a quick look, the they all look the same to me
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only if you bought a terrible 4K tv.
then you have to think to yourself why buy a crap 4k tv in the first place then try and fix it with an external box.
i'd trust the sony engineers who have spent millions on R&D over someone else.
This TBH. I highly doubt that unless you have a TERRIBLE 4k TV then any external upscaler that doesn't cost hundreds of pounds isn't going to do any better. Then again any cheap TV may well have a poor screen anyway so it may not matter what you put in if the display itself isn't up to scratch.
Yeah I tried to flick between all screen shots and very little difference mind you I get the same when comparing default VLC render and MadVR render, not too much difference but the MadVR is sharper, cleaner and more detailed but if its worth while for the casual user perhaps not.
Its possible however during moving video the pot player DSR makes a more noticeable difference, ill try and tweak it and try it at one point.
That is completely stupid
for £2k + investment, you aren't just buying for today, you are probably buying for the next 3 - 4 years by which time Satellite, streaming and disc 4k will be a lot more common.
Its daft beyond measure to tell someone to buy a new 65" set and only go 1080p, which will be out of date before Feb next year (when BR 4k will be released) - with BT Sport already streaming 4k and Sky not far behind.
Buying anything less than a 50", then fair enough get 1080p - the screen is highly unlikely to be big enough for most to see any worthwhile difference - 50" + however and its pointless NOT going for 4k as its quite possible to get a 4k set (at that size) for well under £1k (a well known high street store are already advertising them at ~£750 at this size)
edit - an external box is never going to make any difference. I guess there is potential for a PREMIUM AV amp to have a better scaler than a cheap (maybe even mid range) tv , but is anyone likely to go with this combination? Highly unlikely I would have thought.....and even then you are still gambling on the actual (budget end of the 4k market) screen to actually be capable of displaying any actual difference.
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how will a 1080p tv be out of date by february?
just because there will now be 4k blu rays (which nobody buys) makes zero difference.
out of 1000 random people in the public how many do you think buy blu rays on a regular basis? maybe 1?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...t-forecasts-after-Blu-Ray-disappointment.html
physical media is dying. people are streaming now. it's all about digital not physical.
introducing 4k blu ray in a digital world may as well be VHS the difference it's going to make.
physical media is on the decline and 1080p is here to stay for 3-8 years easy
yes 4K is a total waste of time with regards to the General Public, they're not interested at all, because with all the adverts on tv they still saying to me at work ``what's a 4K tv?`` or ``OLED what's that?``.
they Stream onto a normal HD TV but nearly all of these are less than 42'', put it this way; i know nobody that has a tv larger than 50''.
but is 4K a waste of time for us lot ????.....no but a 4K LED might be!!!! because a cheap 4K OLED is maybe only 2 years away, but this 1st Panny OLED due out soon will be way too expensive, in fact cheap LG OLEDs are already here, but i'd rather have a Panny.
they Stream onto a normal HD TV but nearly all of these are less than 42'', put it this way; i know nobody that has a tv larger than 50''.
but is 4K a waste of time for us lot ????.....no but a 4K LED might be!!!! because a cheap 4K OLED is maybe only 2 years away, but this 1st Panny OLED due out soon will be way too expensive, in fact cheap LG OLEDs are already here, but i'd rather have a Panny.
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DVD is still outselling Blu-Ray for some unknown reason despite most movie fans likely having large screen HD TVs. While 4k content is out there while DVD is still the most popular format and studios don't give users any real incentive to upgrade I can't see that changing other than for those that love their technology.
^^^^^ When I recently called round to see my brother he showed me his latest DVD buys. Regardless of him having a 50" Plasma he still chooses to buy DVD's for a few pounds in the supermarket than consider the Blu-ray option.
If they happen to have the TV on when we can round it is sometimes on a SD channel when a HD option to watch it is available.
Not sure how typical that is but 4k wouldn't even be a consideration for them.
I'll have to blow the dust off my Panasonic 3D active glasses, can't remember when I last tested them.
If they happen to have the TV on when we can round it is sometimes on a SD channel when a HD option to watch it is available.
Not sure how typical that is but 4k wouldn't even be a consideration for them.
I'll have to blow the dust off my Panasonic 3D active glasses, can't remember when I last tested them.
Ha! I've had my Samsung F8000 for nearly 2 years and still haven't bothered to try out 3D
Price is a big factor, most people just don't see the benefit of paying an extra third (or more) on top for what they consider to be small improvements.
my Plasma is still going strong and of course looks great, this tells me that any upgrade is a waste of money till the future Panny OLED is cheap enough and this will be about 2000 quid.
i.e if i buy a 65'' Sony 1080p now (cheap) i'd still be replacing it in 2 years time...not worth it is it.
my main concern is, will this be late next year or the year after, because Panny have said, ``our priority is to get the OLED down in price as soon as possible``.
we seem to be in a Dead Zone, it's been like this for over a year, we're no further on now than last november.
but if i was going to buy something right now, i'd definitely get the Sony 65'' 1080p LED.....not the 4K version
^^^^^4k might have more relevance for some people than it does for me. Banana shaped TV's don't do much for me either.
My GT50 still does more than hold its own in terms of PQ. Having active 3D isn't much value for us, although we have watched some films in that format.
Putting the hype aside about bendy TV's and 4k it is kinda refreshing that the longer we keep the Cadillac of a Plasma we have the better value it has been for us.
My GT50 still does more than hold its own in terms of PQ. Having active 3D isn't much value for us, although we have watched some films in that format.
Putting the hype aside about bendy TV's and 4k it is kinda refreshing that the longer we keep the Cadillac of a Plasma we have the better value it has been for us.