When does 4k become mainstream? I'm looking for a new TV and can't decide if I need 4k. Will you hel
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How far are you sitting away and when's the last time you had your eyes tested. Lots of people don't realise or forget these two points, you need to be sat surprisingly close and if your eyes aren't 20/20 or better you need to be sat even closer.
As for original question, a long time, as normal people don't care. And there's not enough visualphiles to push it forward. Then there's the problem of internet speeds, format wars etc.
However i'll be upgrading by ~Jan to at least 3f just to watch Sir David Attenborough new series. Out start of 2016. Which was filmed in 3d, not sure if it was filmed or will be broadcast in 4k though.
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This is quite a good website for Screen size and distance checking.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/size-to-distance-relationship?uxtv=2e6d
It doesnt have every size, but for a 42'' 4K tv you want to be 4.0 feet - 1.22 m any more than that it won't look as good.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/size-to-distance-relationship?uxtv=2e6d
It doesnt have every size, but for a 42'' 4K tv you want to be 4.0 feet - 1.22 m any more than that it won't look as good.
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it's nowhere near a third though is it?
i just looked at Jurassic world and mad max on a popular site.
it's £9.99 for the dvd, £14.99 for the blu ray and £17.99 for the 3D version.
you can pretty much guarantee that the 4k version will be around £25-40 easy especially if they have to use multiple discs, etc.
to people who care about quality cost isn't an issue. that is the main problem 95% of people either don't care or don't have a clue about true quality. so they stream everything and buy tv's based on features or looks rather than picture quality.
which is a huge problem for enthusiasts as the main market basically just wants a large tv for peanuts so will buy any cheap tat that has been dolled up and the PR boys have had a go at jazzing up the specs.
What's wrong with the current crop of 4k OLEDs?
People forget 20/20 is an average eye sight reading, that means a significant proportion of people have better than 20/20 vision.
That's said you'd have to sit fairly close to a 40" TV to really notice the difference. On a 60+" TV or projector you should notice the difference a lot easier.
Lifespan is still to be proven for blue LEDs as far as I'm aware. No point ditching a perfectly good plasma for a 4K OLED screen, whilst they're still expensive, little available content and still unproven.
I suppose the two key things right now are availability across a range of specifications (right now it seems to primarily be >55" TVs, and of course price.
But from what I've seen the quality does seem to be there.
the trouble is, my next tv has to be much better than my Panny...... but definitely not the same or slightly better, i therefore may as well keep it for another 2 years.
the 4K i've seen only look better due to top quality showroom demos, but look the same as mine on 1080p or maybe worst
the 4K i've seen only look better due to top quality showroom demos, but look the same as mine on 1080p or maybe worst
you'll never see a tv set up correctly in your average showroom and many of these will refuse to to show it to you with either an SD input, or on BBC HD.
they either cant be bothered, dont know how to change the settings, or more importantly, they know it looks crap on SD !!!!!!
The blue issue was solved a couple of years ago. The TV is now more likely to break than the blues die now.
Yes they are expensive, but no more so than Plasma screens when the first Hd screens came out. You're not going to get a 4k sub £1k screen for a while but £3k is a reasonable price for something most people would keep for ten years imo. Thais about that we paid for our last plasma.
If you have a good working 1080p screen right now then there is little need to upgrade, but if on the other hand you are looking for a new Larger screen tv that you plan on keeping for 10 years then I think it's a no brainer to get a 4k TV, and perhaps stretch the extra £1k to get n OLED.
There's a reason for that. Diminishing returns on 4k at sizes below that. There isn't much need now, as many people have pointed out in this thread, you're unlikely to see much of a difference. Larger screens however will show a difference.
I'm sure 4k will come to small screens as standard in a few years when prices come down but at the moment it makes sense to concentrate on the areas it really makes a difference.
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I am sitting less then 1 meter away and have 20/20 according to my last eye test last summer
I could be testing it incorrectly and so could it be my source material, I just read over on avforums that those youtube 4K test videos are just up-scaled 1080p videos
Could explain why when I flick between 1080p video and 4K video I see no difference
I am not too concerned about the 4K test material for now, too busy tweaking and running test have to make a decision if this tv is worth it or not and if it is not back it goes !
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If I was buying a TV now I would make sure it was 4K.
How often do most people upgrade their TV? I think it is something like every 7 years or so. It isn't as often as people upgrade IT stuff.
4K is beginning to become available on Blu-Ray and streaming. It is only going to become more prevalent in the coming years.
How often do most people upgrade their TV? I think it is something like every 7 years or so. It isn't as often as people upgrade IT stuff.
4K is beginning to become available on Blu-Ray and streaming. It is only going to become more prevalent in the coming years.
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Had my current 1080p tv nearly 6 years now.
Still feel it does a great job so I'll be waiting until 4k oled is reasonably priced before going for an upgrade.
My current TV is only a 46 inch though, which now feels a little small.
Still feel it does a great job so I'll be waiting until 4k oled is reasonably priced before going for an upgrade.
My current TV is only a 46 inch though, which now feels a little small.
I was talking about the OLED side of things, but agree re: 4K. In the shops OLED is getting a very small showing right now, normally one or two massive panels and that's your lot.
Course its the best advice imo also
The difference between a good 1080p TV and a 4K is little I looked at the best 32-40 inch TVs in general and they were always hitting 350-450, the next Tvs up were all £500-600 (mid range) and all had 4K already.
If your buying might as well save up a bit more and go for 4K imo.
Not really seen much judder but tbh have not watched too many 1080P films yet or any sports. From the TV shows I have seen its been smooth so far.
I have it currently on Movie mode, backlight 7, contrast 49 and brightness 58.
I am still in the middle of tweaking stuff but its taking much longer then usual, I got my PC with MadVR tweaked and working well, just gone through the Avforums picture perfect tweak but noticed a much better one here:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-display-calibration/948496-avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration.html
Guess if anyone wants the best picture quality and performance you gotta do some very hard tweaking work!
Have you left half your settings on like sharpness, mpeg noise, motion plus, clean view? I only ask since they can make your picture worse !
I noticed Samsung UK website recently put newer firmware's out in October so I have updated mine might be worth doing the same.
Yeah good point. size wise then it matters, my comment was more in the vain of an 40" tv costing £400 and a 4K 40" tv costing £500, but an 50" 4K now that price difference would make me faint
Still as the AV sites often suggest, even if we don't like it 4K is going to become the norm over the next year or two so its going to be there regardless.
I still have doubts about 4K, hdr, led technology, would much prefer a good 1080p oled TV
