When does Window 10 extended support end?

[Gray2233]

ESU has always been an additional cost and large businesses and education establishments will already have annual Microsoft agreements in place they also have ICT development plans outlining when equipment should be replaced on 5 year cycles. If they have left hardware refresh cycles slip which is common in education then its down to bad leadership and financial planning its not Microsoft's fault they are using ancient hardware when they are wasting money; the state primary school I worked at spent £10k on a mural for the school hall and had well being days for staff where the teachers had massages and yoga lessons, one of their wellbeing session they had for the teachers the same week they made me redundant was on how to apply makeup, so whatever mess their IT is in now is entirely of their own making.

This is an interesting point.

I've worked and functioned as an auditor in a lot of companies doing all sorts of things in the increasingly distant past (thank god).

The vast majority of companies I've dealt with are on ancient Windows versions, ranging from XP to W8, it's incredibly rare I've seen a company fielding a legitimately up to date version of Windows for their overall network use. That became more and more rare as broadband became available, they'd at best get people/departments on ancient hardware/software to dial into a VPN/Cloud system running something modern while the actual backend hardware/software was ancient and still vulnerable. This ranges from banks, major insurance companies, health care both private and nationalised and a whole heap more.

There's almost always been a disturbing lack of modernisation when it comes to computer systems, probably a bit of an "under the rug" syndrome mixed with cost cutting.

I'm not refusing to use W11 because I'm concerned about modernisation, I just think it's a garbage O/S.

 

[NetMan]

The vast majority of companies I've dealt with are on ancient Windows versions, ranging from XP to W8

Doesn't surprise me at all one of the times I met up with my former tech he told me he had been upgrading the OS on one of the servers at the place he was now working and it had been years since Microsoft supported the version it had been running. The councils HR portal the schools admin officer needed to access also caused headaches from time to time because it relied on old tech that was unreliable / unsupported and it was a relic from the past.

I'm not refusing to use W11 because I'm concerned about modernisation, I just think it's a garbage O/S.

At home I didn't exactly rush to switch from W7 to W10 and I didn't touch W8 with a bargepole but W10 eventually grew on me despite (in my opinion) some things being worse.

I don't like what they have done with the start menu on W11, I'm not interested in having AI features scanning everything, I want to keep my local admin account and I don't want everything stored online either. But when I replace the W10 PC I'll probably still put W11 on it rather than Linux as my main OS, maybe W12 will be better. But individuals complaining about Microsoft on a forum have about as much hope of changing Microsoft's ways as a bloke in a rowing boat has of towing an oil tanker.

 

[Murphy]

^ You seem to be really struggling with the fact that Windows has a life cycle, Microsoft don't owe you anything "it's not their problem" if people refuse to update their hardware and they get left behind.

I literally said "I'm not complaining as they can do whatever they like, they seem to not like Windows any more." so no I'm not struggling with software only being supported for a certain period, what I'm struggling with is the statement you made that started all this that "Microsoft's only income from Windows 10 is business and education customers with volume licences that are paying for ESU licences." and how you seem to think that's some sort of excuse.

That and the numerous other fallacious arguments you made.

 

[NetMan]

I literally said "I'm not complaining as they can do whatever they like, they seem to not like Windows any more." so no I'm not struggling with software only being supported for a certain period, what I'm struggling with is the statement you made that started all this that "Microsoft's only income from Windows 10 is business and education customers with volume licences that are paying for ESU licences." and how you seem to think that's some sort of excuse.

That and the numerous other fallacious arguments you made.

You say you aren't complaining and then say I'm making excuses for them, well you're barking up the wrong tree because why would I make excuses for them when as far as I'm concerned they haven't done anything wrong?

it's not like that absolves them or that it doesn't make it their problem.

So what wrong do you think they have committed that needs absolution and is their problem to fix?

The fact that W10 became EOL like every other operating system they released?
That some features in newer operating systems seem like a step backwards for "some" power users?
That they keep releasing buggy updates?
That some computers don't meet the hardware requirements to upgrade when other operating systems including Linux have also dropped support for old hardware over the years?

Microsoft are far from perfect but I just don't understand what you think they have done that they need atone for you just seem mad at Microsoft and want to pick an argument over nothing.

 

[Murphy]

You say you aren't complaining and then say I'm making excuses for them

Do you know what a sentence is?

So what wrong do you think they have committed that needs absolution and is their problem to fix?

If you're not going to read what people have said there's really no point continuing this conversation with you.