When you get cancer how are you going to handle it?

tbyeah said:
I misread, it's not completely absolute but it is in my mind beyond reasonable doubt until evidence shows otherwise (as none has been found). I'd say the same with anything.

Here's a claim -> anything backing it up? -> yes/no -> ok let's look a bit more into it then/come back when you do.
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You're asking for evidence of something that cannot be proven, and you're only asking for one side of it. You're asking for evidence that consciousness existed before/after we die. I'd ask for evidence that it didn't exist before/after we die. You can't use lack of evidence for one as proof of another. That's why I always think it's best to keep a relatively open mind.

Back to the topic. I honestly don't know how I'd handle it. I've lost both parents to Cancer, and a work colleague is dealing with it right now. I know it's a horrible disease and I wish it would just **** off. The only advantage to it though, assuming you are terminal, is that you have a chance to say goodbye to people, and to take care of anything you might want to. The people who die suddenly in some way never get that chance, and might leave with things left unsaid or unfinished. If it does happen (and I hope it doesn't), I hope I can at least face it with dignity and humour.
 
JBod said:
There is a lot of statistics around it of course, but it was loosely based on this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22796220
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If you calculate how many people drink excessively (more than a few units a week), smoke (at all), use drugs, eat very unhealthily or are couch potatoes...

... then add in those who are predisposed to cancer (familial cancers, other illnesses that increase the risk significantly)...

... then you have more than any 50%. There are a lucky minority of those who drink, smoke and have other illnesses who won't contract cancer. Likewise an unlucky minority of those who are totally perfectly clean, and will get cancer.
 
I honestly don't have a clue how i'd handle it. I'd like to think i'd be positive not let it control my life. But how can you know until it happens?
 
tbyeah said:
Everyone that you've ever known, and ever will know in the future, will almost certainly be dead in well under two centuries. Two hundred years, of the two million humans have been around. That's only a drop in the ocean compared to the 4.5 billion of the Earth.

Then there's 7 billion of us, of which you will speak to maybe a thousand, slightly more. An insignificant proportion. And we are all just here, on a rock floating aimlessly in an infinite space.

The scale is simply incomprehensible. As irrelevant as our lives truly are in the grander scheme of things, it's what you make of it. The fact that you are even here, a bundle of atoms out of the trillions and trillions and trillions, is amazing. Savour it.
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Quoted for truth; This has occupied my consciousness for the past year... I can't get my head around it. :confused:
 
My goal is to live till 90+

I don't drink regularly or heavily. Eat healthly, and exercise.

If I got cancer, bum luck i'd be ****ed because it'd potentially ruin my plans. :D
 
albert said:
This is a really good thread and at 44 I've been really lucky to be cancer free and hopefully i will never have this horrible disease. However, at the end of the day when you think about it we are all going to die. It's crap. I don't want to die, i love life. What scares me is how i am going to die. My worst fear is dying in pain whilst having a heart attack.

I have 2 daughters who are 9 and 10. No matter matter how much i love them and word's can't describe how much i love them, they are eventually going to die and there's absolutely nothing i can do about it. Life is utterly brilliant and utterly crap at the same time.

If you could really live forever then to put it into perspective the sun will eventually burn out and everything on earth will die anyway. We are all doomed, some sooner than later .....
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if our body can regenerate certain parts then the other parts should be able with a bit of help meaning then yes we could live for ever. I do believe that our bodys can be programme too.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
Back to the topic. I honestly don't know how I'd handle it. I've lost both parents to Cancer, and a work colleague is dealing with it right now. I know it's a horrible disease and I wish it would just **** off. The only advantage to it though, assuming you are terminal, is that you have a chance to say goodbye to people, and to take care of anything you might want to. The people who die suddenly in some way never get that chance, and might leave with things left unsaid or unfinished. If it does happen (and I hope it doesn't), I hope I can at least face it with dignity and humour.
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I think that I'd like to know. Rather than say just having a heart attack randomly and not getting to have them last few words with people I love.

I found the channel 4 show 'my last summer' very hard to watch but interesting. They all seemed to pick the way they wanted to die and to get it Might have been editing made it seem more like how they wanted to go was how they went. After watching it I was all full of 'I don't need to know when I'm dying to start changing how I act', but that has ebbed away already.
 
albert said:
This is a really good thread and at 44 I've been really lucky to be cancer free and hopefully i will never have this horrible disease. However, at the end of the day when you think about it we are all going to die. It's crap. I don't want to die, i love life. What scares me is how i am going to die. My worst fear is dying in pain whilst having a heart attack.

I have 2 daughters who are 9 and 10. No matter matter how much i love them and word's can't describe how much i love them, they are eventually going to die and there's absolutely nothing i can do about it. Life is utterly brilliant and utterly crap at the same time.

If you could really live forever then to put it into perspective the sun will eventually burn out and everything on earth will die anyway. We are all doomed, some sooner than later .....
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if our body can regenerate certain parts then the other parts should be able with a bit of help meaning then yes we could live for ever. I do believe that our bodys can be programme too.
I think we are at the peak of cancer rates it will slowly decline.
 
Well this is a happy thread isn't it :(

Simple fact is, something has got to kill you in the end.

I try not to think about it but at the back of my mind I do have this worry it could happen to me :(
 
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Give up my job as a high school chemistry teacher, buy an RV and make methamphetamines with one of my old students so that I can leave behind enough money for my family to be taken care of after I die.
 
RaMDOM said:
Quoted for truth; This has occupied my consciousness for the past year... I can't get my head around it. :confused:
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In about 8 billions years the Sun will turn into a Red Giant which will consume Earth, shortly around the same time as The Milky Way galaxy (ours) merging with Andromeda. That will be a fun thing to witness...
 
It depends how serious it is.

I honestly think it might be preferable to be told 'there is a 90% chance you'll be dead within the year' than be told 'there is a 50% chance'.

If you know that the chances are high you will be dead, you can spend what time remains really living for your life. If there is no guarantee of death, then you'd naturally want to go for treatment, which is pretty miserable stuff and may end up in death anyway, without you having had the opportunity to use your remaining time.

Hopefully, this is not something I will have to worry about. Cancer is a scary thing and I have sympathy for those who get it. But in the end, we've all got to go sooner or later. The best we can hope for is some dignity when we go.
 
Rroff said:
There is no evidence it didn't exist only that we aren't aware of any previous existence, neither is there evidence that any previous consciousness did exist mind but there are no sound grounds for having an absolute opinion either way.
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Jeeesus christ. Shall I make it simpler? How did you feel in 1910?

Apply that same feeling to after you die, tadaa, theres your answer, so your no grounds for an opinion either way is tosh.
 
3 grandparents lost to cancer, 1 to heart failure.

All 4 smoked, the men drank like fish, and all lived well in to their 80s.

From a genetic predisposition perspective, and given my lifestyle is far healthier than any of theirs were, I think I'll do ok, and hopefully treatment will be stepped up in 40 years time. Just think how advanced treatment is now compared the to the 70s.
 
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CREATIVE!11 said:
My goal is to live till 90+

I don't drink regularly or heavily. Eat healthly, and exercise.

If I got cancer, bum luck i'd be ****ed because it'd potentially ruin my plans. :D
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Well you are decreasing your odds but no one escapes from the grim reaper. My friends dad was one of the fittest (Physically) fit blokes i had ever met. He had been a fireman, he was a fire chief, exercised daily, was very physically active, didnt drink or smoke or didnt even have 10 kebabs a week! And he dropped dead from a heart attack at 56.

Me.. well it would probably involve a huuuuuuuuge bag of weed and plenty of top shelf hookers. Smoke till i dont care anymore.

BTW it also made me laugh that the thread under this one at the time was "Trip to Chernobyl & Pripyat" :D:D:D
 
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RedvGreen said:
In about 8 billions years the Sun will turn into a Red Giant which will consume Earth, shortly around the same time as The Milky Way galaxy (ours) merging with Andromeda. That will be a fun thing to witness...
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We are all made of stardust anyway. When we die our atoms don't disappear but get used to make something else. When the sun dies every atom will be reused for another star, maybe more planets and possibly life. We never truly disappear. Our consciousness does, depending on your religious position, but we all carry on and simply return to our natural state. One day my descendants may watch the sun going nova and a small part of them will be made of my genes. So in a small way I will be there.
 
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