Where do I stand

[A2Z]

So you get 20 days holiday a year, joined half way through so should be entitled to 10, took 15 or something and now they want those days back.

Seems perfectly reasonable, you clearly knew you were not entitled to that much, regardless of what you were told, it's just basic common sense.

You don't have anything to stand on.

 

[t2na]

So you get 20 days holiday a year, joined half way through so should be entitled to 10, took 15 or something and now they want those days back.

Seems perfectly reasonable, you clearly knew you were not entitled to that much, regardless of what you were told, it's just basic common sense.

You don't have anything to stand on.

If he's told the system is correct and the allowance showing is correct then he has everything to stand on.

 

[HangTime]

I had a similar issue in one job, I joined late in the year (November) and directly asked the HR manager during my induction what my holiday allowance would be, she said 3 days so I took 3 days (I'd calculated it beforehand as being 2.8 days or something like that but didn't know what system they used to work it out, would it round up or down etc).

Then in September of the following year (!!!) an HR admin contacted me to tell me that they'd be doing some reconciliation and found that I'd taken 3 days instead of the 2.5 I was entitled to, so I owed them half a days holiday for the prior calendar year. I was a bit taken aback because:
a) I'd been explicitly told I had 3 days to take
b) Nothing had been queried for 9 months, surely they should be checking this more frequently? The HR Manager who did my induction had left by this point.
c) It seemed super-petty to be chasing me for 0.5 days holiday three quarters of the way through the following year. It's like saying to someone "hey remember that pint I bought you in 2002, can you pay me back please??". At the time I was earning about £23k, it probably cost them more in wasted time from me and HR discussing/researching it than the value of that 0.5 days (about £50 maybe), even ignoring the morale impact (I discussed this with peers at the time, and still remember this 17 years later).

In the end they sort of begrudgingly said "oh well, if you say you were told that then we'll let it slide..." like they were doing me a massive favour or I'd tried to pull a fast one and they couldn't disprove my statement.

 

[andybird123]

Suggest to them that you aren't going to take any more holiday and that they only allocate you more on the system when you've actually accrued

If you aren't leaving there's no reason for them to dock you pay over it

 

[mid_gen]

Verbally not trusting anything again

Do not every do anything with HR unless it is in writing and recorded somewhere.

If you have a face to face conversation about something with HR, either ask for, or write an email to summarise the outcomes and get someone to confirm it.

 

[Mr Jack]

So when I started I was told twice that the holiday system was correct it was showing that I had 16 so I took that as gospel yeah I should have maybe used some common sense but if you are told twice your not going to really question it

In this case, I'd not be taking any of it. If you questioned it with someone appropriate and they said it was correct then that's their mistake. I guess it depends how much capital you're willing to burn on this. 6 days is quite a lot extra, so you could consider offering to split the middle and take 3 days out of next year's allowance.

 

[Mysterae_]

Reminds me of this:

 

[OspreyO]

Reminds me of this:

Dunno what this has to do with OPs question. But man do I have to do this a lot.

 

[Mysterae_]

Dunno what this has to do with OPs question. But man do I have to do this a lot.

It was in reference to talking to HR and any other management, be that at the same level as you or above. Cover Your Ass (CYA).