Where do your Formula 1 loyalties lie - and why?

Ferrari - Absiolutley hate Ferrari, what they stand for, their arrogance and team orders.

McLaren - I'm also negative about McLaren used to like the. But the last few years they have lost all my respect. Team orders, decisions etc.

Renault - Again 10 or so years ago I liked Renault. However until Flavio Briatore leaves, I want there team to die.

The other teams I don't like, I don't dislike. I'm an English driver supporter.

Button - great smooth driving, is capable of winning a championship or two.

Hamilton - great driver, looses his cool sometimes. but has bulls and uses them,. Doesn't care that all the other drivers think he is dangerous. Is certainly talented enough to win multiple world titles like MS. However he is annoying me the end of last season and this season. he is not new any more. He should not always side with Mclaren. He needs to be more involved tell McLaren if he needs to pit and decide himself what to tell the stewards and most importantly lose the whiter than white look. Just admit to the press you are dirty and underhanded if you needed to be, or at least just ignore them. you would never of seen MS act like Hamilton does with the media.

Vettel - he has stunning pace when in clean air. But he just doesn't have the aggression or overtaking moves. like Hamilton he listens to his team to much. On Sunday he should have known he had more fuel and when he saw Massa drive pull in, Vettel should have stayed out. At the moment not overly impressed with him. Hopefully he can get a bit more charged up for the rest of the season.

I remember the days I actually supported teams. Like Williams when they were so technically above the rest. But the days of ingenuity in f1 are gone. I would love those days to come back. but it's not going to happen and every year we get closer and closer to a same car series.
 
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Mclaren- they were the underdogs against ferrari when i first started getting into F1 and as a young brit patriotism and support for the underdog took hold.

things went a little stale until hamilton came along who was actually interesting to watch drive unpredictability and excellence makes for compelling viewing.
 
JRS said:
Out of interest, what do you think Ferrari stand for that is so objectionable?
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The attitude they have, and others perpetuate, that Ferrari is F1. I don't really care if they left and think it would hurt them a lot more than it would F1.
 
bam0 said:
The attitude they have, and others perpetuate, that Ferrari is F1.
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You're always going to get people saying that. Ferrari has been there since the start of the World Championship. I don't recall Ferrari ever saying anything along the lines of 'we are F1' though. Perhaps you or AcidHell2 could point out some instances to me?

I know Bernie proclaimed that "Ferrari is F1" but he's always been a bit prone to hyperbole....

bam0 said:
I don't really care if they left and think it would hurt them a lot more than it would F1.
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They're hardly likely to lose much in the way of publicity though are they? And at the end of the day, that's why the manufacturers are in F1. Ferrari is probably the best placed of them all to not get hurt by leaving F1.
 
I've been watching F1 since I was a kid and I don't really consistantly follow a team. I do lean towards McLarens but I tend to support the Brits.
 
Brawn - For no massive reason I just love how he has taken everyone by surprise.

My loyalties in reality do not lie with any particular team but rather with certain drivers. I pick the British ones out of a sense of patriotism.

I like both Buttons and Hamilton's driving styles even if they are quite different the smoothness and un-phased driving by Button is brilliant. Where as the rather fearless and often dangerous overtaking by Hamilton often puts a smile on my face.
 
JRS said:
You're always going to get people saying that. Ferrari has been there since the start of the World Championship. I don't recall Ferrari ever saying anything along the lines of 'we are F1' though. Perhaps you or AcidHell2 could point out some instances to me?

I know Bernie proclaimed that "Ferrari is F1" but he's always been a bit prone to hyperbole....
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They don't need to say it explicitly, I personally think their actions and the statements they make show that they believe it themselves.

JRS said:
They're hardly likely to lose much in the way of publicity though are they? And at the end of the day, that's why the manufacturers are in F1. Ferrari is probably the best placed of them all to not get hurt by leaving F1.
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In my mind Ferrari's name is built on their involvement in F1, without it they are just another supercar manufacturer.
Maybe I overstated it saying I wouldn't care if they left F1, I would miss them, I just find them infuriating.
 
Ferrari - Never liked them, their ego, etc. Liked Schumacher as he is very skilled and brought a lot to the sport. Kimi.. meh he is 'ok' but getting bored of the one liners from him. Massa.. not a big fan. Get the feeling he has to have lots of fluff and stuff around him to get him to drive well. He did well last year though generally so can't knock that.

Williams - Used to like them when Hill raced for them. Good British team but don't tend to follow them much now. Bit of a neutral team in my eyes. Rosberg is good (second to Hamilton from the GP2 bunch) but needs better team/car. Nakajima.. some signs of good driving but can't see him being picked by a decent team yet.

Force India - Used to be a big Jordan fan, however they have re-branded so many times since then I don't follow them now. Fisichella.. no comment ;) Sutil is ok.

Toyota - Can't stand them. Too much political/big Japan corp stuff going on behind the scenes. Never been a fan of Trulli who is the biggest journeyman of any driver on the grid. Do like Glock though.

BMW - Didn't like Sauber due to their tie-ins with Ferrari before. Followed them a bit last year - good underdog team. Kubica is quick but not making this years car work, so maybe only quick in a good car? He seems to moan a bit. Heidfeld is another journeyman. Nothing against him, he seems ok.

Brawn - My favourite team by far, mainly due to being a Button fan. Followed since BAR then all the poor years as Honda, I'm so glad they got things together with Ross Brawn. Barichello is ok but has played number 2 driver for so long, I can only see him as that.

Toro Rosso - Don't like them due to being a 'B' team. Nothing against the guys there, but I think it isn't right they get handed most of the car to them etc. Bourdais... not that good really. Buemi could have potential.

Red Bull Racing - Becoming more of a fan of Red Bull now they have a decent (reliable) car, however struggling on strategy now. I like their 'fun' ethic that has been lost since losing Jordan team those years ago along with Brawn. Much better than all the official / politics that we've had from Ferrari and McLaren recently. Vettel is young and has a good career ahead. Webber is 'ok' but never seen a string of good races from him yet, only the odd good one. Both are likeable though.

Renault - Similar to Ferrari.. never liked them, however I do like Alonso as he has proved last year what he can do in an average car. Piquet.. no comment ;)

McLaren - Mixed bag. Like the British side (huge HQ, people, motorhome etc) and obviously Hamilton has done well. Getting a bit bored of their politics and other crap though. Kovalinan... no comment ;)
 
My loyalites lie with the grid flange ;)

I've always been a Jenson Fan and growing up I was a Hill fan. Always liked the British. This time it's purely becasue Jenson is sucha great personality and he really can drive.

My other loyalties would have been Honda. I love the brand and what they stand for and their passion for racing and the technical things.
 
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Williams exist only to race. They have no product to sell or advertise, and go about racing with the minimum of politicking. Brawn may join them when their Honda money runs out, but Williams are the only true independent on the grid.
 
Some great responses people, especially the longer ones - keep it up, it makes good reading.
 
Ferrari - Was always a huge Schumacher fan. I started watching F1 in 1997 and have been hooked since. When I did start following F1 I had no idea about Schumacher's previous success, and only really followed him because I hated Villeneuve. It wasn't nice to see Barrichello constantly get shafted to let Schumacher win, but when Irvine raced for the title it was good to see the roles reversed.

McLaren - *spits*. The only McLaren driver of my time that I liked was Mika Hakkinen. He was such a great driver and it was sad to see him go, because that allowed Schumacher to walk it which kind of killed the sport a little. I hate the team as they are now, but I do feel Hamilton is the most naturally talented driver on the grid, it's just a shame he races for them. If I were 10 years older I'd probably be a fan of theirs because of Senna.

Williams - have never really bothered me that much. Used to be thereabouts every year until Renault pulled out of supplying their engines, and I do feel for the team a little because they looked like making a comeback in '01/'02 but they've disappeared again.

Renault - I did actually become a keen follower of them when they returned to F1, I like to keep an eye on a midfield team that's got potential and more often than not, they become something good. I used to follow Sauber back when Massa/Raikkonen/Alesi raced for them, that became Renault, then it became Red Bull. Toyota will be up there soon ;). If Alonso had a decent car he could probably walk to the title without pushing, he's a very skilled driver - the complete package imo.

BMW - As mentioned previously, I used to keep an eye on Sauber, a team with potential, and this is them as now. I really expected them to challenge this year because they've got 2 very good drivers but they've been disappointing. Can't say I'm overly fussed that they're struggling a bit, but Kubica should look elsewhere if they keep on underperforming.

Brawn - Well, as good as it is to see Button getting a good drive and getting the best out of the car, I'm getting sick and tired of all the hype around them. Most people on here have defected to be Brawn "fans" because they're suddenly at the front and that does annoy me slightly. I know people like Duke have always been Honda fans and I myself always gunned for them because my dad works for Honda. People like Branson sticking his nose in when they started winning is just typical, like EJ said to him - "why didn't you invest when I asked you?", and his response was so fake it was cringeworthy. The new Man Utd of F1 if you ask me, 95% of the fans are just sheep.

Toro Rosso - a team that looked very good towards the end of last year but the loss of Vettel is a big blow imo. Buemi has talent and has proven that already, Bourdais did well in America but is out of his depth here. I can't see him doing better than he is now. Good to see them get a few points though.

Red Bull - my tip for the title this year, despite the domination by Brawn so far. Vettel proved his worth in a car which rapidly improved last year and deserved to be right in the thick of it. I'd like to see Webber finally get a win and this is his best chance, but I'm just not sure he'll do it. Could be good for the constructors' title too - 2 consistent points scorers.

Toyota - finally managed to get a half decent car out of the £bn's they've spent since entering F1. Perennial underachievers for so long and I'm sure it's a relief to the team to be getting in the thick of things this year. Won't win more than 1 race, and that'll take some doing with better teams still in front of them in the form of Brawn and RBR.

Force India - have to give them credit for sticking at it. Jordan were big fan favourites when they started winning and it was a shame to see the team decline so fast. Will score their first points this year, hopefully without Raikkonen smashing them out of the way ;)
 
Ferrari: Always was a big ferrari fan, always will be. Support them now with their stance on the budget cap, will follow them into whatever they do on a track :]

McLaren: Hamilton fan, only reason

Red Bull: Excellent brand, love everything about red bull. Never expected them to be as good as they are this season but its great none the less :]

Brawn: Much respect, Brawn is a quality bloke and this is showing. Also being sponsored by Virgin, another brand that i admire.

BMW: prefer TC stuff to F1 tbh.
 
el_dazza said:
Brawn - Well, as good as it is to see Button getting a good drive and getting the best out of the car, I'm getting sick and tired of all the hype around them. Most people on here have defected to be Brawn "fans" because they're suddenly at the front and that does annoy me slightly. I know people like Duke have always been Honda fans and I myself always gunned for them because my dad works for Honda. People like Branson sticking his nose in when they started winning is just typical, like EJ said to him - "why didn't you invest when I asked you?", and his response was so fake it was cringeworthy. The new Man Utd of F1 if you ask me, 95% of the fans are just sheep.
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Agree 100% Where were all these fans of Button last year when he was getting stick on this forum. Watching Manu. ;)
 
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