The problem is that you can't apply the rules of Mars bars or whatever to buildings. You can have no Mars bars but you can't have no floors. Therefore you start on the ground. You cannot think of it as Mars bars/ladders/apples. It is not the same.
Where is the first floor?
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The problem is that you can't apply the rules of Mars bars or whatever to buildings. You can have no Mars bars but you can't have no floors. Therefore you start on the ground. You cannot think of it as Mars bars/ladders/apples. It is not the same.
The floor is the ground. Therefore it is the ground floor.
It's not the same thing though.
No money is nothing. The ground floor is something. The same rules do not apply.
Buildings are not binary.
By what rationale?
I think you'd be on the nth floor of the local police building
Of course they are.
If you think of the ground floor as floor 0, you will be confused. The ground floor is the ground floor. It is G. The floor above is 1. Buildings do not conform to the binary rule.
We are talking about floors, not buildings. Feathers are not the same as pigeons.
People are getting too hung up on floors anyways, think of it as first floor above ground level etc...that's the way it is on plans.
It's not always the way. At work I walk straight through the door which is ground level. There is no elevation whatsoever.
My wife does this
It should be 'a week tomorrow' or something.
In Nigeria [and probably other similar places] they call the day after tomorrow 'next tomorrow'.
In theory if we opened this topic on a page called E, we could then call that the Entry page. Then pages 1, 2, 3 etc would follow as elevations above that page.
However, that wouldn't work because you would have to physically go INTO the topic to get to E. However, you are already on the ground when you go into the ground floor of a building. Which is why the rules apply to some things and not to others. You are already on the ground, you do not go to the ground to get to the ground floor.
And if the ground floor has no walls or doors, purely pillars, are you still on the first floor? What makes the floor, the walls? The doors? No, the floor does. Just because it is beneath the building it does not become the first floor. It is the floor on the ground, i.e. the ground floor.
Your logic is skewed because you think that when you put four walls and a door around a space it stops being the ground and becomes this thing called the first.
If there were no walls or doors but just pillars, you are still in the building and still on the ground, are you not? So it is the ground floor.
Not sure which cabin you mean, cannot see the image from here.
It actually doesn't. Below the house is nothing, no operation, no personnel, no furniture, it is clear that it is neither a habitable or working space and is irrelevant to the floor naming or numbering system. The floor that you walk in on, behind the front door, would be called the ground floor.
And of course it's your picture, you chose it to illustrate a point. That's like saying these aren't my words, I just chose them to construct a sentence.
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It doesn't have to be that complex. If the main entrance is on the first floor, it's the first floor.
The hammock example is an interesting one, but an oddity. I wouldn't call it a workable floor as such, just a hammock between two posts.
We've already ascertained that this is not the same as Kit Kats or Mars bars or whatever.
The ladder analogy is far better. The first step up is where you count 'one' from. You do not count 'one' before you have even started climbing the ladder, or stairs.
no i would start at 1, this god awful thread doesnt start on the 0th page, it starts on the 1st page and goes on and on and on and on and on to the 15th (and counting)
Like so many other people you're missing the point. SOME things start at one and SOME things start at zero.
Pages, books, manuscripts, start at page 1.
Stairs and ladders etc begin with the first elevation. Not at ground level.
I think, in a roundabout way, we're saying the same thing. I agree that where negatives are possible, 0 needs to exist. That's a very good way of putting it. Even if your house or flat doesn't have a basement now, it could at some point.
If your defining the cover as page 0 then sure, I can go with that. It doesn't change anything I said though, in fact it enforces it.
Having looked it up, a cover is not a page.
You can accept a dolphin as a shark but you'd be wrong.
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