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Running the set up as per my sig , so think ill try Vista X64 , just hope the games run well on it 
Which 64 bit o/s
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I vote Vista x64
Use it for 99% of games and video editing
I got Ultimate Retail, So 2 disc x86/x64, Not as expensive as you'd think if you know which country to get it from
ps: my vista retail has never had to call and has always activated in a matter of seconds
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Use it for 99% of games and video editing
I got Ultimate Retail, So 2 disc x86/x64, Not as expensive as you'd think if you know which country to get it from
ps: my vista retail has never had to call and has always activated in a matter of seconds
Ciao
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Vista uses DX9 and 10, XP only uses 9. Depends what sort of benefits you get from it, some games are only minor differences.
I find Vista a lot more polished, tbh i think most peoples complaints come from not wanting to learn a new OS, once you pick up the same sort of familiarity, you won't notice much of a difference.
There's also superfetch, and since you play games they'll be cahced and start/load maps a bit quicker i would imagine.
I find Vista a lot more polished, tbh i think most peoples complaints come from not wanting to learn a new OS, once you pick up the same sort of familiarity, you won't notice much of a difference.
There's also superfetch, and since you play games they'll be cahced and start/load maps a bit quicker i would imagine.
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get vista 64 bit
i have had it on my laptop for over a year now and only had one problem driver(built in webcam, no driver for the first few month after install)
i have had it on my laptop for over a year now and only had one problem driver(built in webcam, no driver for the first few month after install)
OEM, which is why I think it's so damn twitchy.
I get the automated service, then my number gets rejected and I get put on the phone to someone. After trying to understand their accent for ten minutes I get reactivated.
The final straw was when it considered me disabling C1E (speedstep) as a reason to deactivate me. I can deal with phoning, it just starts to grate after the 12th time.
No brainer go Vista x64,infact I have both XP x64 bit discs and Vista x64 and you know what I'm using,yes Vista x64 for gaming and general use,I have ALL drivers for my hardware infact some I can't get for XP x64.
I game ALL the time,last count was 80 plus games tested and all working fine,Vista x64 has matured a lot in the last year with drivers and SP1 etc...
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Definitely Vista x64. I play a lot of games and they all play fine under vista. Don't believe what you hear about vista, it's a load of tosh. You have a good system so you should'nt have any problems.
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This.
I have been using XP64 since its launch.
I like Vista 64 but it just isnt perfect on my main rig.
I have now installed it for the 5th time, and once again, its just not quite there.
If anyone tried to tell you that the drivers for Vista64 are any better than they are for XP64 then they are simply full of poo-poo. If they tell you that any software runs better then once again, its simply misinformation, ignorance, or just plain dumb lies.
In the 3 or so years I have been using XP64, the only issues I did have were in the first few months, and its only a matter of using common sense with most things. There has not been a single game that I have had any issues with... Some had issues with HalfLife2 in one of the later levels, but I did not.
Of all the software I have tried, there has never been anything that XP64 has failed to run, that Vista64 suceeded... If it dont work on 64Bit then it wont work on Vista64 Bit either... There will however be a 64Bit version of that software... If not, then the software just isnt good enough.
The choice is completely up to you, dont let anyone suck you into assuming that Vista64 is any better of worse than XP64.
I have to say that Vista is still an infant as far as it goes, and XP64 is fully matured. I want to go with Vista64 so much with my main PC but it simply does not work too good on it no matter how much I try, so I go with XP64 because its flawless and faster... Vista64 is however on one of my other PCs and its flawless on that... Another thing to accept is that its possible that vista just will not work on your PC... Its getting rarer but its still a possibility, and if anyone tells you that Vista will run no matter what, then they are bloody liars.
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People keep quoting that Vista64 is better than XP64.
In what way?
( Only serious answers on that one )
I like Vista 64 but it just isnt perfect on my main rig.
I have now installed it for the 5th time, and once again, its just not quite there.
If anyone tried to tell you that the drivers for Vista64 are any better than they are for XP64 then they are simply full of poo-poo. If they tell you that any software runs better then once again, its simply misinformation, ignorance, or just plain dumb lies.
In the 3 or so years I have been using XP64, the only issues I did have were in the first few months, and its only a matter of using common sense with most things. There has not been a single game that I have had any issues with... Some had issues with HalfLife2 in one of the later levels, but I did not.
Of all the software I have tried, there has never been anything that XP64 has failed to run, that Vista64 suceeded... If it dont work on 64Bit then it wont work on Vista64 Bit either... There will however be a 64Bit version of that software... If not, then the software just isnt good enough.
The choice is completely up to you, dont let anyone suck you into assuming that Vista64 is any better of worse than XP64.
I have to say that Vista is still an infant as far as it goes, and XP64 is fully matured. I want to go with Vista64 so much with my main PC but it simply does not work too good on it no matter how much I try, so I go with XP64 because its flawless and faster... Vista64 is however on one of my other PCs and its flawless on that... Another thing to accept is that its possible that vista just will not work on your PC... Its getting rarer but its still a possibility, and if anyone tells you that Vista will run no matter what, then they are bloody liars.
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People keep quoting that Vista64 is better than XP64.
In what way?
( Only serious answers on that one )
Well I read your post and completley disagreed with nigh on everything you said. There is more support for Vista x64 than there ever was for XP64 due to the amount of take up on this. XP64 was really just an afterthought where as Vista32 is more of the afterthought.
In todays market more and more people have x64 CPU's than they ever had and they don't cost a fortune to buy. This is why, for pretty much the first time, users can use the full capabilities of a 64-bit O/S.
If you're having problems on Vista why not list them and see if people here can help you - if it doesn't work on your main rig then that suggests a problem with your setup somewhere as it's working for millions of other people. Vista works absolutely perfectly here. I'd certainly say it was faster than XP (due to me having 4GB RAM / Quad-Core processor which 32-bit operating systems could not handle).
There are hundreds of reasons to upgrade. The lifetime of the system will be increased for patching, directx10, 3rd party support is getting better and better with much better optomised code being written, reliability (yet to have a crash on Vista yet - left the PC on for 30 days with no slow down and in and out of applications, etc.), managability (group policy has been upgraded so on a Win2008 domain there's litterally endless group policys you can configure), etc, etc, etc.
I'm not going to bore you with every feature though I'm sure you can google it. Why not voice your problems and lets see if we can help.
M.
Some drivers are NOT available for XPx64,I can get them for Vista x64,
http://www.trust.com/products/product_detail.aspx?item=15076
,http://www.trust.com/products/product_detail.aspx?item=14209§ion=drivers.
I do use the Trust Bluetooth device a lot,as to why I think Vista x64 is better then XP x64,obvious reasons like DX10 etc yes I game a lot and better security, longer life span,better at memory handlng,better driver support in my case.
I could go on but the above is more then enough for the deciding factor for me,gaming and general use has been great, even the beta drivers above have worked without issues.
If you want to stay on an older OS thats fine, but I for one know which OS I prefer.
Remember no OS is perfect that includes XP as well as Vista,so your mileage may vary depending on your hardware/software etc...having said that I know which OS I prefer .
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Most of that was completely irrelevant.
I have posted in the past about the issues I ahve had with Vista64 on this very machine. I have also had this machine running flawlessly, until the day I activated it and then within 2 hours I had to reinstall? - I have had mixed success with Vista on this machine, and at the same time, I have Vista running on a machine in the LAN room that is not supposed to be able to even run vista at all... Yet its flawless.
I too am running 4GB/Quad and since I have not used a 32Bit O/S for 3 years what does that have to do with anything?
Left the PC on for 30 days? - I never switch mine off, I never suffer from any kind of slowdown at all, and my No.3 PC has been running XP64 since ... Hang on ... FEB 06 and its still every bit as fast as it should be. But this is what they are supposed to do, so 30 days is a poor example.
DX10 ?
To be honest, I dont really see that much difference at all between DX10 and DX9, so for me thats a useless point.
Bluetooth? - I use Bluetooth too, just fine for me, although I would not dare put my quality PC in the same category as trust components.
Better memory handling.
This is true, but then where does that show up?
It needs better memory handling because the O/S itself is such a bloated hogger, so its a bit of a trade off I feel.
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Now, this all said, I have said before, that Vista64 is the way to go, I have not changed my stance on that, I will however defend XP64.
Too many people are saying it cannot do this or it cannot do that, when they clearly have not actualyl used it at all. It runs 99.9% of the software I have tried on it... The software that did not work, does not work in Vista either, or there is a 64Bit version of it... Everything else runs perfectly.
At first sure, I had driver issues, but since going to 64Bit, I have simply used common sence, and any hardware I have bought, I have simply made sure that there is 64Bit support, given that its been over 3 years since the release of XP64, I dont think that is too hard to do, and if there is no support for that hardware, then I simply dont buy it.
I use WebCams, Bluetooth devices, printers and scanners just like anybody else and I have no driver issues at all.
I will also add, that Vista64 is the way to go if given the choice on new hardware... If the hardware is a few years old however, then perhaps XP64 is... As long as its not a 32Bit O/S thats fine.
30 days was an example (I don't try and leave my PC on all the time idling). With XP it does slowdown - I don't care if you have had it on for a year mate it does go slower. It's a well known fact. Same at work I have it on for months at a time but then it does eventually slow down and requires a restart.
The better memory handling shows up all of the time. The superfetch is better using the memory to speed up access to regularly used programs/games but releasing the memory efficiently when you do something else. I don't find the o/s bloated. Feature rich I would use to describe it with lots of useful tools (have a look at the scheduled tasks to see all of the housekeeping it does).
I do use XP and XP64 at work - but I still would go for Vista any day over the week fo that. You won't see much difference yet between DX10 / DX9 but that's going to change as the next gen of video cards come out and utilise all the functions.
You still haven't mentioned what the problems are and I'm unwilling to troll through hundreds of posts on the off chance I might find them. I really dont get what you want. One minute you're criticising it the next you're saying its fine so whats the point?
M.
The better memory handling shows up all of the time. The superfetch is better using the memory to speed up access to regularly used programs/games but releasing the memory efficiently when you do something else. I don't find the o/s bloated. Feature rich I would use to describe it with lots of useful tools (have a look at the scheduled tasks to see all of the housekeeping it does).
I do use XP and XP64 at work - but I still would go for Vista any day over the week fo that. You won't see much difference yet between DX10 / DX9 but that's going to change as the next gen of video cards come out and utilise all the functions.
You still haven't mentioned what the problems are and I'm unwilling to troll through hundreds of posts on the off chance I might find them. I really dont get what you want. One minute you're criticising it the next you're saying its fine so whats the point?
M.
XP slows down
Yes, but XP64 did not seem to be any slower after years of use.
Memory handling
Vistas memory handling is better yes, but its not the be all and end all.
Too many people seem to be making this out to be something thats so much better than it actually is.
DX9 / DX10
Next gen? - the thing is the 8800 etc were the "Next Gen" so, do you mean the "next next gen"? and the difference was minute unless you had the absolute top end system and even then, it was not all that great as many people will now agree on. Sure, as long as nvidia stop their dirty tactics with the DX10.1 issues, then DX10 is *** way forward, but again, patches are already out that allow DX10 in XP and there is talk about DX10 for XP being officially released anyway, so at this time, I dont think that DX10 is much of a point.
My problems?
They are not the problem here, I have not mentioned them because they are not the issue here, I didnt ask for help with the issues Im having or for you to go trawling through anything so if you do, that your problem not mine.
My views on Vista64
They have not changed. I like Vista64... Its nowhere near as great as many seem to be making out, but too many people are slagging XP64 off in areas that are clearly infair or simply just BS. XP64 is sleek, and clean, and since its based on the Server kernel its absolutely rock solid stable, and flawless. and just because Vista64 is out, that does not all of a sudden make XP64 unstable - it seems that there is too many people knocking XP64 all of a sudden?
Im not critisizing it, or at least Im not trying to.
Hell, I want to go with it so much, I have it on a couple of systems, but on my main rig its just never quite there and I go back to XP64 and its flawless every time.
Im merely stating that the O/P was going with Vista64 and now he is considering XP64 and I feel that since the O/P was liking XP so much, then my thoughts are that XP64 will give him all the benefits of 64Bit but without the issues he may very well get with Vista, but everyone seems to be slagging off XP64 too much without any true justification.
DX10 is only the start,you have no upgrade path DX technology wise with XP x64,at least with Vista there is,as a gamer its important to me and as time and DX technology moves forward will become even more important.
I agree its not hard to check which 64 bit drivers are available for hardware etc...however my point was there are trade offs depending on what hardware/OS you use, ie drivers not available depending on what OS you use,again it was only a minor factor in my decision.
Personally I rather go with a more future proof and more upgradeable OS like Vista x64 then XP x64.
As a gamer its no brainer between the two.