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less noise and a bit more mhz
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I mean i already have the Ben Nevis. Just wondered if there was anything more 'Suitable' If so, what to?
Have 3600 on the way but haven't got it yet. Temps look okay, but without running a heavy load on CPU we don't really know how well cooler (and case airflow) is cooling.
Ben Nevis is a good low cost 4x heatpipe 120mm fan cooler, but CPU temp is not just the result of how good it's cooler is, but also dependent on how good case airflow is supplying cooler with air within a few degrees of room temp. Most stock case airflow is marginal at best supplying cooler on hard working CPU with air 5c, 10c, even 20c warmer than room if GPU is working hard too. What case and how is case airflow setup?
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Define 7 with two Arctic P14s in at the front and one at the rear.
X570 Elite board.
2070 Super GPU
Chipset temp is around 40c
GPU is around 35
Case fans at idle are running around 40%, CPU fan at idle is 50%
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all depends on your needs.
what do you run your CPU at: Stock; PBO; manual OC?
Are your temps fine?
Is the noise ok?
If the cooler is doing what you want it to then there isn't much point in changing it.
What Ross said, if you are happy with temps (they look good) and system noise level no reason to change .. unless you have access to a better cooler for almost no expense.
Again, without running a really high work load on both CPU and GPU at same time we really don't know how good/maybe not so good your cooling and airflow really is.
That setup should do pretty good. Maybe move back exhasut fan to bottom intake speed cyclinEditg wiht GPU fans. Set fron fan curve to match CPU cooler fan. I would remove PCIe back slot covers to increase rear venting for more front (& bottom) airflow back and out around GPU, for even lower temps and lower fan speeds so even less noise.
But again, without running a really high work load on both CPU and GPU at same time we really don't know how good/maybe not so good your cooling and airflow really is.
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Yeah noise is fine. I eliminated the main noise by getting rid of my WD Black!
Will try a few games tonight and see what temps I'm at, but, I'm fairly confident it should all be okay.
Just talk of Ryzen specific coolers etc, wasn't sure if it was worth the plunge!
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Running the Division 2 at 1440p, mostly maxed out settings.
GPU at 65c
CPU at 65c (Give or take a few C's)
Good temps. Assume noise level was acceptable too, so all is fine.
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Yeah it's not bad re:noise.
There's obviously noise there from the fans shifting air but with headphones on it's inaudible.
Few spikes on the CPU to 71C, but never for more than a few seconds, it tended to be in between the 60-65C mark.
GPU again, tended to be in between the 60-65C mark.
Think i'm happy with that
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seems a bit hot TBH - are you running the CPU stock, PBO or OC?
I repeatedly said
"But again, without running a really high work load on both CPU and GPU at same time we really don't know how good/maybe not so good your cooling and airflow really is."
So I'm assuming gaming session is hardest / highest load system has to do. Temps were posted 9PM on day we had 24-27c temps so on the warm side, probably even that late in evening.
Would be better if we had actual CPU and GPU load readings, but with what we have all we can do is give educated guesses.
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All stock, nothing OC'd.
The fan curves probably play a role in this too.
CPU Fan at 60C is 55%, 70c is 65%.
Case fans 60c is 45%, 70c is 60%.
The gaming session was roughly 3.5 hours and the peak temp of the CPU according to Argus was 72.1c for a few seconds, with the majority of the time it being sat between 60/65.
The hardest I'll push the machine is those scenarios. Gaming sessions for a few hours, probably maxed out settings at 1440p.
Edit: Made a slight change to the case fans so that they now go as follows:
45% up until 55C
55% at 65C
65% at 75c
Edit Two: Just realised that one of the front intakes and the rear exhaust weren't set to use the CPU temperature -_-. Obviously forgot to change this back when i updated the BIOS the other day. Doh!
Quick Cinebench has the CPU temp hitting 71C.
All these temps are from Argus Monitor.
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Personally you’re not going to gain anything significant by changing cooler. If you fancy a change then get something different.
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That's fair enough. I've seen talk of Ryzen die not being central and some coolers are better than others etc. Not sure how much difference it really makes, if it does? Hence the original question.
Sounds like your fan curve is much lower rpm than what I setup.
My basic fan curve is based on rpm to temp and always 500rpm or more. Percentage is only used to get desired rpm. Something similar to below. Actual settings vary depending on fan oscillation to RPM, want quieter performance, etc. I ant CPU to stay below about 80c. I can't say it makes a difference, but I have systems like i7 920 @ 3.8GHz that's been in use for at least 10 years now and still going strong. Like I said, I don't now how much if any difference keeping everything below 80c is part of reason why, but I like to think it is.
My fan curves are similar to below:
What are fan speeds and temps at idle, like when just surfing web?
Changing cooler won't make things cooler unless you increase fan speeds to supply case with more cool air and are moving more of that cool air through coolers.
I don't think there is really a lot of difference between AMD and Intel dies / die placement under IHS and/or flatness / convex / concave of IHS and cooler base on AMD with normal size IHS. That said, some new AMD owners have had problems getting good cooler base to IHS prints. But I've had problems with some Intels too over the years. We do need to keep in mind some of these new CPU chips are much bigger than older CPUs were .. while some as much smaller too. Threadripper with it's credit card size IHS with huge chips under it is definitely much harder to get good cooler base to IHS contact prints.
My basic fan curve is based on rpm to temp and always 500rpm or more. Percentage is only used to get desired rpm. Something similar to below. Actual settings vary depending on fan oscillation to RPM, want quieter performance, etc. I ant CPU to stay below about 80c. I can't say it makes a difference, but I have systems like i7 920 @ 3.8GHz that's been in use for at least 10 years now and still going strong. Like I said, I don't now how much if any difference keeping everything below 80c is part of reason why, but I like to think it is.
My fan curves are similar to below:
500-550rpm idle
650-700rpm @ 45c
850-900rpm @ 55c
1050-1100rpm @ 65c
1200-1300+rpm @ 70c
Full speed @ 75-80c
I setup my fan curves to keep system below 80c so fans hit 100% at 75-80c so system never gets any hotter than that.650-700rpm @ 45c
850-900rpm @ 55c
1050-1100rpm @ 65c
1200-1300+rpm @ 70c
Full speed @ 75-80c
What are fan speeds and temps at idle, like when just surfing web?
Changing cooler won't make things cooler unless you increase fan speeds to supply case with more cool air and are moving more of that cool air through coolers.
I don't think there is really a lot of difference between AMD and Intel dies / die placement under IHS and/or flatness / convex / concave of IHS and cooler base on AMD with normal size IHS. That said, some new AMD owners have had problems getting good cooler base to IHS prints. But I've had problems with some Intels too over the years. We do need to keep in mind some of these new CPU chips are much bigger than older CPUs were .. while some as much smaller too. Threadripper with it's credit card size IHS with huge chips under it is definitely much harder to get good cooler base to IHS contact prints.
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So CPU fan speed at idle is around 1000rpm.
Case fans at idle are around 800RPM.
Idle temps are around 31-40c when browsing etc, sat at desktop doing nothing.
So your idle temps do seem a little on the high side. If it was my system I would increase higher temp to rpm speeds so fans are full speed at 75-85c. Obviously fan speed needs to say quiet enough to keep you happy. I personally would rather hear fans than see temps about about 80c.
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Idle temps on the Ryzen 3XXX are generally in the 30's low 40's, that's just how the CPU works.
I have the fans to kick in at 100% when the temps get to 80c.
The temps have never hit 80c. They've never really gone above 70c and even then the noise is 'acceptable'.
Again, the temps that's I mentioned last night probably weren't correct, as two of the fans weren't ramping correctly, I forgot to set them to use the CPU temperature!
I'll have to try Division again with them correct and see where we're at.
I'm comfortable with the temps as they are though I think! Ideally don't want anything over 75c!
I have the fans to kick in at 100% when the temps get to 80c.
The temps have never hit 80c. They've never really gone above 70c and even then the noise is 'acceptable'.
Again, the temps that's I mentioned last night probably weren't correct, as two of the fans weren't ramping correctly, I forgot to set them to use the CPU temperature!
I'll have to try Division again with them correct and see where we're at.
I'm comfortable with the temps as they are though I think! Ideally don't want anything over 75c!
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