Which Browser???

Combat squirrel · 4 Oct 2008 at 22:03

Firefox, why use anything else ? if safari isnt programmed to web standards then thats apples fault, not ebays (who im guessing conform to web standards)

Dru · 4 Oct 2008 at 22:49

The problem actually lies with ebay/paypal and not webkit.

MagicBoy · 4 Oct 2008 at 23:39

Combat squirrel said:
Firefox, why use anything else ? if safari isnt programmed to web standards then thats apples fault, not ebays (who im guessing conform to web standards)

Safari uses Webkit therefore is more standards compliant and secure than IE, and is as good if not better than Gecko browsers (eg Firefox) and Opera.

eBay worked fine until a few weeks ago. I'm blaming the customer-centric company that goes by the name eBay...

Tute · 24 Oct 2008 at 14:07

Small bump as i've been playing with both since getting my Macbook.

I have to say i've settled on FF3, but it's actually pretty close. I found Safari to be faster when loading and browsing, but I miss FF's addons. Also the bug with maximising Safari drove me mad.

Addons I use:

- Adblock Plus
- Noscripts
- Download Statusbar

likwid · 24 Oct 2008 at 14:26

Yeah, but it's not a bug that you can't maximise Safari..

Cybertronic · 24 Oct 2008 at 17:12

You can maximise Safari's window easily with Glims. It also offers lots of other features worth using

LordSplodge · 24 Oct 2008 at 20:35

ca9phoenix said:
i just flick flack between safari (on now)and firefox depending on what i'm doing

LordSplodge · 24 Oct 2008 at 20:40

Tute said:
. Also the bug with maximising Safari drove me mad.

It isn't a bug!

OS X Applications (unless programed to do otherwise) on maximize to the amount of space needed to fit what they need to fit. It takes some getting used to but is better than the full-screen ways of Windows. Trust me.

Cybertronic said:
You can maximise Safari's window easily with Glims.

You need to let go of your Windows feelings my young Padawan, only then can the force of OS X flow though you...

Tute · 25 Oct 2008 at 15:53

All the other applications I use on the MB so far maximise to fill the screen? :confused:

Also, does anyone else find FF3.03 to be quite slow? It's really getting on my nerves now.

Fillado · 25 Oct 2008 at 16:30

LordSplodge said:
It isn't a bug! OS X Applications (unless programed to do otherwise) on maximize to the amount of space needed to fit what they need to fit. It takes some getting used to but is better than the full-screen ways of Windows. Trust me.

You need to let go of your Windows feelings my young Padawan, only then can the force of OS X flow though you...

The problem is that it works so inconsistently that it's more of a "Lucky dip" of Window sizing. For example:

Safari - Fits the window to the content
iTunes - Switches between main player and mini player
Mail - Full Screen
iCal - Full Screen
Address Book - Nothing
Finder - Fits it to the content... sort of
Activity Monitor - Full Screen

And so on. Of course when you have a large screen this is useful, but in Safari it doesn't even know the difference between a page that has its content fitted to the screen size like the OcUK forums, or if it's fixed like BBC News.

Cybertronic · 25 Oct 2008 at 16:40

LordSplodge said:
You need to let go of your Windows feelings my young Padawan, only then can the force of OS X flow though you...

It was a suggestion and I very rarely click on the green button myself

Cybertronic · 25 Oct 2008 at 16:51

Tute said:
All the other applications I use on the MB so far maximise to fill the screen?

Also, does anyone else find FF3.03 to be quite slow? It's really getting on my nerves now.

Try Safari again with Glims and Safari AdBlock

likwid · 25 Oct 2008 at 17:31

I really, really like the Firefox 3 'awesome' bar feature for finding bookmarks or history by subject or url, and it seems obvious functionality to be able to search (i'm feeling lucky) from the address bar. With that and the add-ons Firefox is way, way ahead of the other browsers at the moment.

Tute · 25 Oct 2008 at 17:46

likwid said:
I really, really like the Firefox 3 'awesome' bar feature for finding bookmarks or history by subject or url, and it seems obvious functionality to be able to search (i'm feeling lucky) from the address bar. With that and the add-ons Firefox is way, way ahead of the other browsers at the moment.

I expect a right flaming for this but if IE7 was available for OS X there would be absolutely no contest IMO.

LordSplodge · 25 Oct 2008 at 20:53

Fillado said:
The problem is that it works so inconsistently that it's more of a "Lucky dip" of Window sizing. For example:

Actually it isn't. Some apps are designed to go full screen (Mail and iCal being good examples) and others such as iTunes are designed to and from mini-mode.

Anyway, I do get your point that sometimes Safari doesn't know about how big a site is and gets the maximise wrong.

However I still prefer the way OS X handles application maximization but it did take me a long, long time to get used to. I have a 27" monitor at work connected to a computer running Windows and every application fills the whole of 1920x1200 when I click the maximise button and that's just daft.

LordSplodge · 25 Oct 2008 at 20:54

Tute said:
I expect a right flaming for this but if IE7 was available for OS X there would be absolutely no contest IMO.

Irony or sarcasm or are you just being plain wrong?

Tute · 25 Oct 2008 at 21:00

LordSplodge said:
Irony or sarcasm or are you just being plain wrong?

Actually I was going for "brutally honest".

Fillado · 25 Oct 2008 at 22:36

LordSplodge said:
Actually it isn't. Some apps are designed to go full screen (Mail and iCal being good examples) and others such as iTunes are designed to and from mini-mode.

The green plus button on Mac OS X does _______________

Please fill in

What I meant was it works inconsistently in that if you were new to an app (or if you're new to OS X) you'll have no pre-forming knowledge of what that button does.

But yes, when you start on the bigger screen sizes it does come into its own somewhat

On a MacBook it's more of a useless thing. What they should really do is offer a choice - they caved on the whole two-button mouse anti-parade...

meghatronic · 27 Oct 2008 at 04:09

pc-modd said:
I can't use safari for ebay so I use firefox now.

Safari until I die (on os x)... won't use anything else. I've just got so used to it.... anything else would be wrong.

On Windows, I'm not such a fan of Safari though....

Rooky007 · 27 Oct 2008 at 21:55

I just been using FireFox the past few days to try it out properly and whilst I prefer Safari not too sure why but I have just discover that Safari is Memory Hungry compare to Firefox do you guys know this?