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Which card for WOW (mainly).

Dervious said:
I was going to ask about this. I wondered how much time the game spends loading "levels".
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An SSD is a very very good upgrade as whenever you enter a dungeon, battleground, scenario, raid, etc it loads the new zone and the load screen will take time, having said that however, it has no effect on performance when actually "playing", what I mean by that is that if it you go through a portal or teleport to another place it doesn't matter if it takes 3 seconds or 10 seconds to load from a gameplay pov just a convenience pov, your not going to die because of it, and so while it's a great quality of life improvement I would personally prioritize getting my CPU/GPU/RAM performance in line with my res first before looking to pend on an SSD.

WoW loads in new zone data as you cross between them on mounts/foot but on a decent system you won't notice that these days even on a mech HDD, any minor stuttering will be due to the network (crossrealm info surge).


Dervious said:
So, it's an SSD, GTX770, Overclocked i5 etc. :D

As enjoyable putting together a gaming rig is, it's also a bit of a nightmare deciding on how much to spend, and what on.
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The spec is kind of running away now isn't it lol, have you considered buying a new Z68/77 board plus a used i5 2500K? that would be an amazing price/performance choice and I generally find CPU's to be the hardest thing to kill in a computer so usually a safe bet for second hand.
 
ubersonic said:
The spec is kind of running away now isn't it lol, have you considered buying a new Z68/77 board plus a used i5 2500K? that would be an amazing price/performance choice and I generally find CPU's to be the hardest thing to kill in a computer so usually a safe bet for second hand.
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Thanks for the advice (I've not played WoW, so it's useful to know what demands it places on a PC).

As the PC will be used for "other stuff", I still think that an SSD is almost a "must have". I`ve not built a system in the past three years without one.

As you say, it is easy for the spec to "run away", it's so much easier and cheaper to build an "office" PC (as a matter of fact, I`ve just finished putting one together). A second hand CPU/MB is not a bad idea, but it depends on the saving. I'd prefer to supply everything brand new, as it'll be me that would have to sort any problems. At least with brand new components there is at least a 12 month warranty.

I think I need to have another chat with the customer.
 
try to stretch to a GTX 660, they are quite a bit better than a 650Ti.

you can prolly get one for £100-120 second hand.

I still need to sell mine >.<
 
8GB RAM is a must IMO. I use nearly all of the 6GB on my 1366 setup very easily when gaming.

250GB SSD preferable over 128GB as 128 does go very quickly.
 
Win 7 64 Bit HP, Battlefield 3, Rome Total War 2 and a few small programs less than 1GB each by far leaves less than 22Gb free on my 128GB SSD. Get a 256GB SSD it will be very much worth it in the long run.
 
:D

Might as well go for a 512GB SSD, GTX770 SLI, and an i7 !

I'm looking for Aldi/Tesco, not Waitrose/Harrods !

Yes, a 250GB Evo was my first choice, but I have a price target to try and aim for (less than a grand). A 120GB SSD is a £60 saving, and that can be used towards the graphics card/CPU.

I suppose I can always point the customer towards Wonga.
 
Dervious said:
:D
but I have a price target to try and aim for (less than a grand).
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YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7950 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795F3G2M) £161.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £143.99
1 x Kingston 240GB SSDNow V300 Drive SATA 6Gb/s 3 2.5" (7mm height) Solid State Hard Drive - (SV300S37A/240G) £119.99
1 x Packard Bell Viseo 243D 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £99.95
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £71.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan GOLD 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLYD38G2400HC11CDC01) £65.99
1 x Asus B85M-G Intel B85 (Socket 1150) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £59.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £55.99
1 x Microsoft Wireless Desktop 2000 (M7J-00020) £35.99
1 x Silverstone SST-PS08B Precision Midi-Tower - Black £29.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-221LBK DVD Rewriter - OEM £14.99
1 x Arctic F9 Pro Case Fan - 92mm £3.49
1 x Arctic F8 Case Fan - 80mm £2.59
Total : £866.92 (includes shipping : FREE).





pretty reasonable non oc build for 860 quid
 
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tamzzy said:
pretty reasonable non oc build for 860 quid
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Not bad at all.

My spec includes an LG IPS monitor, a Samsung EVO 250GB and a 600w PSU.

And I`ve recommended Windows 7.

I'm looking at Nvidia for the graphics, given that WoW prefers Nvidia. However, I do know what a good card the 7950 is.
 
For WoW a quick reference would be:

GTX670 > HD7970-GE > GTX760 > HD7970 > GTX660Ti > GTX580 > GTX660 > HD7950 > GTX650Ti > HD7870

It changes about a bit when you start looking at factory overclocked cards OFC and it's obviously only good for WoW as nothing else favours Nvidia as much short of HAWX.
 
After a quick glance at a couple of GTX660 reviews, it appears that the HD7950 is generally a fair bit better (in terms of fps benchmarks). I think the 7950 would be a better bet for playing other games.

The question is, how much better is a 660 over a 7950 in WoW ? Is there a massive difference or are we looking at a few fps less ?
 
It varies depending on resolution but really the isn't much in it, WoW is one of the games that suffers anomalies if the FPS goes over 60 so there isn't much point saying "X card does 90 FPS but Y card only does 80" as you should be using the frame limiter or vsync anyway.

If he spends 99.99% of his time playing WoW I would say go for the 660 but if he plays a lot of other stuff too regularly then the HD7950 all day long.
 
FoxEye said:
You what? GTX 460s were some of the best cards nV ever released! I thought everybody was in agreement about that :D
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amen to this
my GTX 460 1GB was one of the most cost-effective graphics cards I ever bought, and was one of the main reasons everyone was in uproar over the 600 series pricing (and hell even 500 series was pretty pricey), because they were miles more expensive than the 400 series and far less cost-effective, until the price cuts of the last 6 months + 700 series release.
 
ShakeNBake said:
amen to this
my GTX 460 1GB was one of the most cost-effective graphics cards I ever bought, and was one of the main reasons everyone was in uproar over the 600 series pricing (and hell even 500 series was pretty pricey), because they were miles more expensive than the 400 series and far less cost-effective, until the price cuts of the last 6 months + 700 series release.
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When it worked properly, my 460 was great. The problem was that it was very choosey when it came to motherboards.

And no, I didn't try to get it to work in an AGP slot. :D
 
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