Which cpu cooler?

Ok, is this healthy?

Just running at stock with stock cooler atm, which I presume is 3.4, and when needed the turbo auto cuts in at 3.8?

Coretemp reads (a few mins after about an hour of CS:S) :

0 = 36
1 = 37
2= 30
3 = 30

VID = 0.9557.

Frequency = 1601.66MHz - I assume that's like speedstep (which I disabled for the Q6600)?
 
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Idle temps look fine, but better to check load temps whilst playing, keep coretemp open during play and it will record max temp. The speed dropping to 1600mhz will indeed be down to coretemp.
 
Cpu temps at load in CS:S were 55 across all cores. I kept coretemp running as well as CPU-Z, and both read that the cpu is downclocking to 1600Mhz. I'll have to go into the bios and see what needs disabling. The in game performance certainly wasn't as smooth as normal, but I guess its normal to have to go through a learning curve with a different BIOS / mobo, windows updates, etc.

That said, considering how slow it was running, it wasn't that far off the Q6600's top whack speed!


Would someone mind posting a few 'essential' settings that is generally turned off in the BIOS, e.g. for my old one I disabled speedstep (and something else but I've forgotten it) and used pci-express frequency 101. Thanks. :)
 
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Wow, nice temps on the stock cooler. It will downclock to 1600 when you aren't using it, saves power. Speedstep is good now, used to make my Q6600 unstable, but I love it on the Ivy Bridge.

I disabled C3/C6 support only. I left C1E and EIST enabled. Doesn't cause any issues and no slowdown.

Do you mean that you minimized to check the CPU speed while running CS:S? It will down clock when you are viewing desktop, even if the game is running.

C1E seems to allow voltage to be lowered at idle for me, and EIST allows cpu to change it's clock speeds.
 
Ive left speedstep/C1E enabled on my 3570k, (had it off on my i7 920). Currently clocked at 4.2ghz, rather crudely via an asus windows utility might i add. Much better to have clockspeed lowered for tasks such as browsing the web, and there doesnt seem to be any issues so far from enabling them on an oc'd system.
 
Only issue I have had with speedstep is minimizing from game with too low offset voltage, I think it caused programs to be unstable when the cpu clocked to 4.5 and maybe the voltage was just slightly behind. Seem's okay now though. :)
 
Thanks for the responses. :)

It might be due to more updates, server lag or whatever. It's not 'that' bad but it isn't that good either. I'm seeing fps around 250 - 300 most of the time, then it'll stutter ever so slightly and the fps will sink to as low as around 55 or a little higher (4:3 1024x768 for CS:S / multicore rendering enabled / no AA / max AF / everything else e.g. model detail set to max / no motion blur.

Just quit playing after trying a couple of different servers, and one did run better than the other, which I expected. Funny thing being, though, that my cpu temps were even lower this time : no more than the mid forties.

Desktop and boot speed is surprisingly faster than before, and even my previous machine wasn't a slow one.


@ BrianB - yes, I minimized while playing. :)

I've got some Gigabyte mobo utilities installed. I'll have to check these out, since some of the ones I used in the past weren't worth it, or in some cases, were detrimental to the general running of my machine. :D

Time to read the manual. Thankfully, I quite enjoy doing this. :)
 
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Oh, I wouldn't consider those utilities lol. I guess they are. :D

I have the RST/USB/networking stuff installed but have sound card and overclock in BIOS so don't really bother with EasyTune myself. I had VirtuVMP and Intel GFX drivers installed when I had the IGPU enabled. :)
 
I'm not trying to 'put you on the spot', Brian, but would you be inclined to uninstall those utilities then? :)

Does having the IGPU enabled interfere with a dedicated gpu's performance? I 'think' the on board video was set to auto when I last looked in the bios.


On a side note, and a somewhat humorous one...
I've never installed a cpu into a mobo, or built a rig from scratch before. Actually, technically, I still haven't done the build, as my pc is housed for one night in my old case before the new one arrives tomorrow. However, so far, even this has been a new experience for me, so naturally I was pleased that I hadn't had any problems.

Well, there was one...and nearly a right pain in the rear. To my dismay, the pins on the sata port on the back of my optical had bent (though I managed to get them dead straight again) and lost the socket casing so the sata lead wouldn't fit back in! So, half past three in the afternoon and I'm starting to get a little concerned...without it I can't install windows. I started to consider legging it down the local pc shop and just picking any half decent optical, when all of sudden it sort of 'rested in' while making good enough contact for windows to install.

Now I need a new optical. :D
 
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Lol, I don't even have an optical installed. I just rest it on my hdd cage when I need it. Think they look ugly. :D

The applications won't hurt, I just don't like stuff I don't use on my SSD.

I find sata connection really flimbsy, glad my current cables got metal clasps to hold them buggars in place. I would be getting an external/USB optical, but I pretty much never use my drive, all I use it for is memtest86 because I'm too tight to buy a usb stick.

I want pics of new build. :D
 
Well, it seems the problem might have been speedstep. I turned it off and there seems to be no fps spikes now. A little early to be totally sure, but I'm quietly confident.

She's overclocked to 3.6 with C1E also turned off, though I turn that back on.

Current readings : 0 - 3 = all at around 29 - 32C. Max reported has been 56C when in game. VID = 1.0858.

Is it worth leaving turbo boost on?



I'll now have a look at some benchmarks.
 
I use speedstep and don't have this problem. 1.08V for your 3570k? Lucky! :D Mine is 1.19V.

If you aren't overclocked, might as well leave turbo on as it will boost to 3.7?

Doesn't really matter, I use turbo but also have EIST and C1E enabled to try save some power. If using fixed voltage fixed clock turbo would be disabled anyway.
 
Maybe it's just CS:S, but without speedstep on it's perfect! :)

I've turned C1E back on, and have been upping the clock steadily. Currently at 4.2 with temps of between high 20's to low thirties when completely idle, save for one or two web pages open. The VID atm is hitting a max of 1.17590 (1.3 being the most I should aim for?) The highest temp in game has been 63C.

Edit : Just noticed that when I close CPU-Z, the temps drop even more (mid 20's to low 30's) , which although isn't surprising, it does gives me even more cause to think that I have been reasonably lucky with the silicon lottery. First 'good' cpu I've ever had. :)
 
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Hm, 1.55v is max intel spec for 3570K. Only person I've heard say anything about the VID is 1.38V for safe 24/7 but who knows really. I think 1.38V is a good limit but not sure tbh.

You have a good chip. 3570K is good with 4.2GHz undervolted or at stock volts, but anything over 4.3 and they get thirsty! Mine needs about 1.36V for 4.7 I think, 4.8 is probably 1.38V. Tempting, as temps are fine and I don't stress my cpu apart from gaming.

edit: 1.38V for 4.7, 1.060V VTT 1.500 PLL.

MAX Temps:

Core0 78C
Core1 88C
Core2 81C
Core3 80C
PWM 78C

Not bad I'd say, not sure about the voltage though lol.
 
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That VID level sounds like a number I've heard being a sensible number, too. What is PLL and VTT? Is VID independent of core voltage? Sorry for all the q's, just curious. :)

A lot of this you guys will already know, but I found this video really interesting and helpful, so I thought I'd post it :

 
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1247413/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-with-ln2-guide-at-the-end

Good voltage guidelines in chart on that page.

Try to download GIGABYTE TweakLauncher 1.0(IVB) Working well, can change all overclock settings in windows now while running Prime95. So much easier than restarting.

LOVE this TweakLauncher app!

1.38V was too high for me, so went down to 4.6GHz, from 1.38000V down in .05000 increments I've got the voltage down to 1.30500V so far, brilliant. :D Seen the temps get lower and lower too as I lower the vcore.

Final VCore 1.30V (1.305V) LLC Extreme. 1.07 VTT LLC Extreme PLL 1.500V
 
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