Which internet provider?

Was this an online signup ? I can see an upfront cost with that online.

They still charged me the £60 activation fee (but you can add it to your first bill). It's the £130 to send out an engineer to hook me up to the cabinet/mast/whatever. This house just physically doesn't have a BT phone line, just VM cable.
 
Switched to Green ISP recently (greenisp.net) specifically because they're a bit different, and only 3 month minimum tie in. Phone line separately from the Coop.

Great customer service so far - no waiting on the phone at all, and quick email replies. I have the plain ADSL2+ with 100 GB usage and it's only £15 pm (=£30 with the line). So far so good.

VDSL is more, you're looking at £27 pm + line for 76/19 Mbit.

Hmm I'm still on Sky ADSL2 LLU with unlimited usage and no traffic shaping for £10/month + line rental (have to go with Sky) for £17.99 I think it is. Its a 15mb connection so not bad. As for fibre, I just can't justify the extra costs.
 
Hmm I'm still on Sky ADSL2 LLU with unlimited usage and no traffic shaping for £10/month + line rental (have to go with Sky) for £17.99 I think it is. Its a 15mb connection so not bad. As for fibre, I just can't justify the extra costs.
Two or three ISPs will give you a fibre connection for that price or even a bit less.
 
Plusnet worked out at £28 pm after cash back, once you factor in the activation fee and extra charge for caller ID. I read a few reports of people having slow downs from the traffic prioritization. Which put me off a little.

The Plusnet traffic prioritization is on your traffic, so say your doing a download while playing a game or using VOIP, it will start to slow the download while keeping latency on high response apps / games low. And the little bit of extra time on the download you will never notice, but it means your low latency apps / games still run well.

Without traffic prioritization (say Zen for example) its basically a free for all, so say your playing a computer game and someone else starts video streaming, or 2P2 all the packets will fight for bandwidth and your ping times will suffer.

I've been with Plusnet 4 years, use a Draytek 2860n and run a home webserver, its amazing how well everything copes at once over the one connection.
 
The Plusnet traffic prioritization is on your traffic, so say your doing a download while playing a game or using VOIP, it will start to slow the download while keeping latency on high response apps / games low. And the little bit of extra time on the download you will never notice, but it means your low latency apps / games still run well.
I would rather prioritise my own traffic on my own router, rather than have the ISP dictate my priorities. But they do also prioritise across the network as well.
Our broadband service is provided over a shared network. Bandwidth (the amount of data that can be transmitted on any one connection) is shared between everybody who's connected to the network.

We're constantly investing in our network, and so as customer numbers and usage grows, we increase the capacity of our network to make sure there's more than enough bandwidth for everyone.

In exceptional circumstances the network could become much busier than expected. This could be due to a major news event leading to a huge amount of online traffic, or in the rare case of network failure, for example. In these situations, we would prioritise traffic on our network to help ensure you get a great service no matter how busy it is.
The lowest priority, which is assigned to downloads, goes as low as 5%. So if there is high contention for some reason, you don't necessarily get an equal share of the available bandwidth. Equally, if there is plenty of available bandwidth then you will probably never notice this.
 
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Any further thoughts on this? My BT infinity contract is up shortly so looking to change ISP, I was all set on Orange until I saw this months Think Broadband report...

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7696-uk-broadband-speed-test-results-for-april-2017

I had shortlisted to:

Plusnet
TalkTalk
EE

Looking to go for a 76mbit package but all three ISP's have a number of bad reports (as is usually the case) and I cant decide which is likely to be the safest bet.

Same boat here, but only PlusNet on the list.

BT retentions offering £25.99 for 24! months, even after telling them about all the new customer offers. Cheaper to pay for the cease and get my wife to sign up.

Just worried on performance on peak times for PlusNet (occasional fps gaming)
 
I would rather prioritise my own traffic on my own router, rather than have the ISP dictate my priorities..

People say this, but QOS is actually really complicated to setup correctly not to mention time consuming, and who would not want games/voip having highest priority, and p2p/downloads taking lowest priority.

But they do also prioritise across the network as well.

All the IPS's do this in case of emergency.

Say for example a terrorist attack compromises internet infrastructure. The IPS's have to keep critical internet services running, these being VPN, email, voip, basic web access, to keep these going they may have to reduce or even disable other traffic types.
 
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Say for example a terrorist attack compromises internet infrastructure. The IPS's have to keep critical internet services running, these being VPN, email, voip, basic web access, to keep these going they may have to reduce or even disable other traffic types.

Source?
 
Say for example a terrorist attack compromises internet infrastructure. The IPS's have to keep critical internet services running, these being VPN, email, voip, basic web access, to keep these going they may have to reduce or even disable other traffic types.

Actually, only a handful of ISPs have this sort of thing - the vast majority of them would all just go down if something was seriously damaged in an attack, we see the likes of this with companies like Level 3 when they have basic power problems, let alone terrorist attacks. The only real thing you can protect against with something like a terror attack is DDOS mitigation, in which case most ISPs (and all banks) would use effective things such as Arbor or Akamai as mitigation.

Wow. An interesting read. Thanks.

Plusnet have spent a lot of money recently, they had a lot of issues last year but things should improve for them considering the money they've spent. My major gripe with Plusnet is that they're basically a sideshow of BT and don't have any real capability to act as an autonomous provider, they're locked into an old style design which was responsible for most of last years problems. That said the QoS they do internally on their network for subscribers is pretty cool - they use DPI to match certain traffic types and mark that traffic accordingly.
 
Wow. An interesting read. Thanks.

During the 9/11 attacks I was working as a software developer for internet company in UK, those towers had major internet structure inside them. I remember the internet running slow and websites timing out, some was people trying to get news, but some also was reduced capacity also. Plusnets plan B and C is there for situations like this.
 
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