That's really useful to know, I think in that case I will keep the X570 and pay the £40 to get the block for the chipset.
Did thermal paste used for chipset look like real thermal paste or some thick dried layer of used up bubble gum?Chipset block is now on my X570 Aorus Elite. Idles about 27c and doesn't really move from there.
I didn’t see much of anything in terms of TIM. Mine now has Kryonaut.Did thermal paste used for chipset look like real thermal paste or some thick dried layer of used up bubble gum?
At least here someone clearly found bubble gum from under HSF:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/e3vgka/psa_dropped_x570_chipset_temp_15c_by_replacing/ffwlv4n/
Well, no paste at all would certainly beat them using some Thermal Insulation Material in there...I didn’t see much of anything in terms of TIM. Mine now has Kryonaut.
Funny enough, I deliberately "downgraded" from X570 to B450 for my 3950X. Now I can sleep well after getting rid of that chipset fan! No benchmark number is worth my sleep.there's no way in this world I would stick a RyZen 3000 chip in anything lower than an X570 board.
Funny enough, I deliberately "downgraded" from X570 to B450 for my 3950X. Now I can sleep well after getting rid of that chipset fan! No benchmark number is worth my sleep.
Same for my 3700X - lessons learnt - instead of wasting time with X570, I bought B450 straight away. No need nightmare from DFI NF4.
Good luck with that, I'd never trust the higher end Ryzen 3000s (3900 or 3950) in a B450 of all boards, especially watching reviews of the poor vrms, you've also lost pci-e 4, and 16 pci-e lanes.
3950X on paper is not more power hungry than 2700X so I wouldn't worry. The same B450 motherboard ran fine for my 2700X without a single glitch. All the trouble just came with the unnecessary PCI-E 4.0.
Point of failure by non-standard chipset fan is far worse - it's a guaranteed ticking bomb. You'll end up having burning temperature when the fan fails without you noticing crippled performance until you smell something funny
I would never tolerate more than two moving parts in any of my rig (e.g. one fan for CPU and one fan for GPU and everything else fanless), especially those poor non-standard fans.
I got rid of watercooling in all my rigs because of pesky noise from the pumps typically after 1-2 years of usage.Chipset fans on motherboards have been used for years, DFI NForce4 as you stated yourself, also pretty much identical fans in every laptop you buy, I'm not worried about them at all......in all honesty, I can't remember the last time a had or saw a fan fail and certain boards if you're that worried you can replace with water blocks anyway, even boards with a heat pipe can be pretty easily modified as the vrm on x570 doesn't get hot at all.
The only reason it needs extra cooling is because it's exactly the same chip as the io chip in the CPU, only a 14nm version made by GloFo, the one in the CPU is also made by GloFo but based on 12nm.
I got rid of watercooling in all my rigs because of pesky noise from the pumps typically after 1-2 years of usage.
Also, are you aware that when you try to overclock the RAM (even just loading XMP for merely 3600 MHz), you'd get a warning message from X570 saying that PCI-E 4.0 may get unstable? Secure Boot is also broken for Asus X570 ITX. Everything in X570 just looks like immature technology and is not suitable for me.
Chipset block is now on my X570 Aorus Elite. Idles about 27c and doesn't really move from there.
Here's the chip in question.
Block installed.
Would only fit if the GPU is water cooled
With your GPU watercooled, you could vertically mount it, I see you have the brackets there for it, you'd just need a riser cable, it might of made the tubing to the chipset block a bit easier, just an idea, looks good though.
This is what im using, its not really built for my case, but works fine, I should be using the Fractal Design one, but its been out of stock everywhere, forever: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phan...-riser-cable-90-degree-adapter-cm-02p-pt.html
I could probably drill the case and put a couple of stand-off's in to secure the cable in place, but TBH, I cant be bothered and as its only light, its fine just hovering there.
These numbers for SSD are impressive! Though I'm not a content creator so I don't need that throughput. Also 250GB looks like EVO series (TLC). If you do a continuous writing of 600GB+ data you might not be able to sustain a throughput as high as that burst number (far below saturation of PCI-E 4.0). These benefit (of burst numbers only, not sustained numbers) don't give me any advantage for my use case even if I'm a content creator, so the extra risk of uncertainty brought by the little fan is not worth it for me.Yes ive seen that warning before, however, although it warns you of that, thats not actually what happens, hence "May get disabled", im running a 3900X on an MSI X570 ace with 32gb (4x8gb) G.skill Trident Z Royal Silver, its rated for 3600mhz CL18, but runs happily all day long at 3733mhz with my 3900X, however, its only at 3733mhz because the fabric on my 3900X wont do 1900mhz, when I had my 3800X the fabric would OC to 1900mhz and the ram would do 3800mhz with stock timings happily, all the time whilst maintaining PCI-e 4.0 in all situations listed above.
PCI-e 4 Benched: https://imgur.com/57d1r43
... major downside of the X570 platform: the active cooling usually in the form of a small fan required to control the heat output of the motherboard chipset. It's a real bummer for me to see this cooling trend come back because tiny proprietary cooling fans tend to be one of the least reliable components in a PC, which means that if it fails, the best case is that your jury-rigging a cooler to limp along; and the worst case is that your motherboard throttles your performance or cooks itself before you realise that anything is wrong. Unfortunately this cooling is a necessary evil, apparently due to the additional power required by PCI Express Gen 4.
Asus sure screwed up (or purposely screws consumers?) with their tiny heatsink, if that name can be applied for that piece of tinfoil, in super bad position.Point of failure by non-standard chipset fan is far worse - it's a guaranteed ticking bomb. You'll end up having burning temperature when the fan fails without you noticing crippled performance until you smell something funny
Maybe you should have just RMA'd the board and got a working one. The PCH fans only run under high load, and you usually need a lot of PCI-E devices running to trip them. If yours was running audibly when you weren't even using the computer then something was wrong.Funny enough, I deliberately "downgraded" from X570 to B450 for my 3950X. Now I can sleep well after getting rid of that chipset fan! No benchmark number is worth my sleep.
It's not causing excessive noise for me. I simply don't trust it to be able to last long enough (5+ years) without breaking down. I'm a big fan of fanless wherever possible. This is OCD caused by prior experience of numerous failed fans over the last 23 years of using computers. The chipset fan alone is bad enough for me to get rid of it at all cost, no matter how good the performance is. Having to replace a motherboard is the worst thing to do for repairing a computer, as this usually means messing up the health of the installed operating system as well. I've got no time for this kind of ****.Maybe you should have just RMA'd the board and got a working one. The PCH fans only run under high load, and you usually need a lot of PCI-E devices running to trip them. If yours was running audibly when you weren't even using the computer then something was wrong.