Which Projector - pls advise...

Jez said:
To be fair the Z4 does look rather good. I wasnt aware of its specs. As with everything though i couldnt possibly comment without a home demo :) On paper it looks fantastic though assuming its cheap like the AE900.
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I was fortunate to try them both in my cinema room before buying, what finally edged the Z4 for me was it had a free bulb voucher & 3 year warranty for the same price
 
xirokx said:
hmm decisions decisions....

its just that the other ones have got good reviews as well so Im confused....
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you have to get a demo

dont buy anything on reviews alone, get a shortlist of 3 or 4 & go & see them in action (take your own movies along to use on the demo)

I was going to get a DLP projector, fantastic reviews, tried it & saw rainbows, couldn't stand it.
 
what really lets lcd projectors down is the screen door effect, but on the panny new technolodgy has enabled it to be screet door effectless like dlp but retaining the added bonuses off lcd, such as high contrast ratio.

the panny is true cinema quality, absolutely stunning for the price you pay...

allthough i havent seen the z4 so cant really comment on that but comparison reviews say the majority has to go to the panny. apparently it looks more lifelike and better flesh tones
 
joey_s said:
what really lets lcd projectors down is the screen door effect, but on the panny new technolodgy has enabled it to be screet door effectless like dlp but retaining the added bonuses off lcd, such as high contrast ratio.

the panny is true cinema quality, absolutely stunning for the price you pay...

allthough i havent seen the z4 so cant really comment on that but comparison reviews say the majority has to go to the panny. apparently it looks more lifelike and better flesh tones
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screen door effect is not visable if you sit more than 1.3 X the screen size away.

I really hated the tech in the panasonic to remove it, just made the image soft, almost blurry.

dont rely on reviews alone, you have to see them for yourself & decide which to go for
 
i agree..

i havent been fortunate enough to see the z4 in action. i spent ages trying to decide which one to buy until i asked a friend of mine about projectors. next thing i new he bought the panny. i have seen this and its truly breathtaking.

i have recently discovered my budget isnt as highas i thought, so im gonna go with the cheaper benq w100.

i would love to see the z4 in action though..... just to see the difference and make an informed decision.

alas... in a few years i will upgrade surely, but something new and better and cheaper will be out by then i am sure.
 
joey_s said:
what really lets lcd projectors down is the screen door effect, but on the panny new technolodgy has enabled it to be screet door effectless like dlp but retaining the added bonuses off lcd, such as high contrast ratio.
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I always thought that in general DLPs had better contrast than LCDs?
 
Not at all daz. Personally i prefer TFT out of the digital techs.

None of the cheapies will ever look anything like a CRT (which might be what you were thinking of?), but its all about compromise and these new gen digitals are a damn nice proposition.
 
I just wondered because all of the digital equipped cinemas (Odeon Leicester Square etc) seem to use DLP.
 
daz said:
I just wondered because all of the digital equipped cinemas (Odeon Leicester Square etc) seem to use DLP.
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hmmm. got a point.

maybe its due to home theatre projectors arent required to produce an image of that size, also, in a cinema the film is stored on a real therefore no resolution problems. max we can get from a dvd 480p if you exclude upscaling. its just which projector handles a signal of this quality the best.

but i aint sure, just speculating... ;)
 
daz said:
I just wondered because all of the digital equipped cinemas (Odeon Leicester Square etc) seem to use DLP.
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I truely have no idea, i am suprised that they wouldnt use a CRT based data solution if they are indeed running data projection.

I assume that for normal feature releases they still use a standard film projector?
 
DLP is used for digital cinemas, LCD wont be used at all.

Texus Instruments make all the dlp chips for home projectors but also do much higher res versions for commercial use.

Following link gives more info on the technology involved, quite good if you have any interest in semiconductors etc..

http://www.dlp.com/
 
Jez said:
I truely have no idea, i am suprised that they wouldnt use a CRT based data solution if they are indeed running data projection.

I assume that for normal feature releases they still use a standard film projector?
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i think this is still the case. its the only way to get an undistorted image on a screen of cinema size. i thought maybe cinemas would switch to something like blue ray to get high enough resolutions to turn digital,

but....could they not just use a hard disk to store the film on... hmmm :confused:
 
I can only assume it is because data projection technology simply is nowhere near good enough as yet.
 
have a scan through that link I posted,

cinema dlp's use a 3 chip system, quality is now widely regarded as better than film,

they use a much more advanced system compared to whats available for the home user..

blue ray etc are not really high enough resolution for cinema use. DLP films are much higher res

Reason they are not so widespread yet is purely down to cost, the projectors are incredibly expensive at the moment..
 
whats the cheapest you can get Pan AE900 for btw? Ive been quoted £975.......good bad or a p*** take?

please advise...
 
Stuff for digital cinemas is distributed on hard drives, also..

The current specification for digital projectors calls for three levels of playback to be supported: 2K (2048x1080) at 24 frames per second, 4K (4096x2160) at 24 frames per second, and 2K at 48 frames per second
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So Blu Ray wouldn't come close.
 
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