Who else hates this guy (Gregg Wallace)?

[StriderX]

So on the scale of BBC scandals is this more a Giovanni Pernice than a Jimmy Saville?

Seems like any institution bigger than three people appears to be subject to a policy of DARVO and the Three D's.

Only solution I can think of is punishing the leadership but then that's hallowed management class getting their failings looked into so obviously not going to happen, suppose we can wait for the violent upheaval instead.

 

[shifty_uk]

Failed Greengrocer fails again. Should never have been given the air time he has.

Don’t know too much about him but I quote Wikipedia:

In 1989, he started George Allan's Greengrocers, a company that grew to a turnover of £7.5 million

That doesn’t sound like a failed greengrocer?

I’d rather see someone go from market stall to big screen than some art history grad hire that has no life experience.

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Failed Greengrocer fails again. Should never have been given the air time he has.

Wasn’t he a very successful greengrocer who went on to make a fat bag of cash from being on TV?

Edit: didn’t see Shifty_UK’s post before I rolled my face over the keyboard…

 

[Haggisman]

He does seem to be built a little differently:

If he’s saying stuff like that with the cameras rolling, I could easily see him being a proper seedy sod in private.

Whilst definitely not appropriate in that situation, it does come across as more of a very poorly judged double-entendre than any kind of malicious intent.

Also, how come the other guy gets no mention for saying "you've got a soggy bottom"?

 

[GGizmo]

Whilst definitely not appropriate in that situation, it does come across as more of a very poorly judged double-entendre than any kind of malicious intent.

Also, how come the other guy gets no mention for saying "you've got a soggy bottom"?

I think he's got some kind of condition.

Because why would he purposely say things that he must know damages his reputation, whether he thinks what he's saying is ok or nor.

 

[bigmike20vt]

Whilst definitely not appropriate in that situation, it does come across as more of a very poorly judged double-entendre than any kind of malicious intent.

Also, how come the other guy gets no mention for saying "you've got a soggy bottom"?

i do not know the details and maybe his is a wrongun but that video above he said nothing that i would not have said......... a "bit" of banter in the work place is absolutely fine and i have known lasses say plenty of comments close to the bone in my time, and it was perfectly fine.

however one does need to read the room and it would appear absolute best case scenario he has failed to do that on a number of occasions.

The management of the BBC have to take a lot of the blame, presumably they knew what he was like and saw the things he said, IF they thought it was inappropriate they could have nipped it in the bud years ago, the fact they didnt and only now are going back and raking him over the coals for it does not sit well with me.

I get it even less so with celebrities. yes with some random young lady looking to make a career out of cooking i could see why they would be afraid to stand up to him as he could likely kill their career however a celeb who is only doing it for charity or what ever, if he truly made someone in that case feel uncomfortable then they could/should have just told him to do one and put in a complaint there and then if he didnt back off.

Again, not saying he isnt guilty or a bit seedy, but waiting 10 years to moan about it - esp as (unless i am mistaken) we are not talking about assault here are we, just a bit of crossing the line with the banter?

that does not sit well with me, its too open to abuse with the potential to just do a hatchet job.

 

[Jokester]

Needs some re-education from the expert.

 

[JonRGV250]

^
They’ll still be some on here that find that distasteful.

 

[bigmike20vt]

^
They’ll still be some on here that find that distasteful.

i think its sad if things like the above become taboo, what is wrong with a bit of banter. I do 100% agree however that if someone dug out Greg Wallace saying the above it would be being used as ammunition.

 

[Ayahuasca]

The odd on-air innuendo is not the issue, as he and others would have been canceled by now if it were. As far as I know, none of the people in the other examples posted have been accused of doing this in private and/or taking it further.

It's the fact that in addition to his butchered attempts at on-air sexual jokes, he's also been accused of talking openly about his sex life, taking off his top in front of a female employee and saying he wanted to "give her a fashion show," and telling a junior female colleague that he doesn't wear boxer shorts under his jeans. None of this sounds like jokes or banter unless you operate like David Brent.

He also failed to read the room again with the video he put out over the weekend blaming it all on middle-class, middle-aged women.

 

[dave28]

Strange world these overpaid Celebs live in, if us poor folk went around making sexual comments to Women we would have a black eye in no time.

 

[Haggisman]

i do not know the details and maybe his is a wrongun but that video above he said nothing that i would not have said......... a "bit" of banter in the work place is absolutely fine and i have known lasses say plenty of comments close to the bone in my time, and it was perfectly fine.

Behind closed doors with people you know well enough to know they'll take it as the innocent joke it's intended - fine.

Broadcast on national TV to essentially a complete stranger is a totally different matter.

Like you said, read the room

 

[tangey]

Personally, I can't stand him as a presenter of anything, and he's an immediate turn-off. What he is doing judging amatuer and also professional chefs, who knows. He is not a chef. And The comparison to Simon cowell is completely wrong, Cowell is in the entertainment business and it's his job to recognise talent. You have to think that the actual professional chefs must internally be throwing a wobbler having their technique and expertise critqued by a mouthy greengrocer that doesn't even have a command of the necessary vocabulary.

And on those "how this particular factory works" programs that he does, he basically listens to each worker explain what they do, and they repeats it back in a slightly different form of words, all with a fake gormless grin on his face in faux wonderment.

can't understand his appeal, apparently people love brash uniformed guys that grin a lot and add zero novel information along the way. I'm guessing its a clarkson-esque appeal.

The peice he did in the telegraph at the start of the year about his typcial Saturday, is all very alan partridge. "I am quite the expert myself"....."I have a belly that bloats..I guess we all have our imperfections". Oh and he gets an advert in for his "health programme" in the very first paragraph.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualUK/comments/1ajtri3/tell_me_mr_wallace_whats_your_perfect_saturday/#lightbox

He spends 90 mins with his non-verbal autistic son (who he implies he never really wanted), but 2 hrs "by myself" playing a strategy game.

 

[hornetstinger]

This has aged well, hmm allegations

 

[Bubo]

Gregg Wallace can humiliate as many women as he likes if it means there's a chance of the BBC bringing back Time Commanders for another series!

Note: This statement is flippantly using the Gregg Wallace situation as a way of expressing my visceral desire for a new series of Time Commanders.

 

[Littlenose]

Whilst definitely not appropriate in that situation, it does come across as more of a very poorly judged double-entendre than any kind of malicious intent.

Also, how come the other guy gets no mention for saying "you've got a soggy bottom"?

I agree, why doesn't John's "Soggy Bottom" comment cause an issue?
The only think I can think is maybe the lady let the first comment "go", but on the second comment she decided enough was enough and spoke up.

If any of the on-air comments are an issue, then surely the editor/producers should also be held accountable to letting it air.
The off-air stuff I dont know enough to add anything to what's aready been said.

 

[Freakbro]

The problem (as always) is people want a hard line of what is right and wrong to something that hasn't got one, there's no definitive answer to what is 'banter' and what is 'bullying/inappropriate comments' and the line would change depending on circumstance, the people involved, the degree it happens etc etc

I liked a comment recently that said "It's only banter if both parties agree it's banter" one person can't take the **** out of another and unilaterally declare it 'banter'

 

[hornetstinger]

The problem (as always) is people want a hard line of what is right and wrong to something that hasn't got one, there's no definitive answer to what is 'banter' and what is 'bullying/inappropriate comments' and the line would change depending on circumstance, the people involved, the degree it happens etc etc

I liked a comment recently that said "It's only banter if both parties agree it's banter" one person can't take the **** out of another and unilaterally declare it 'banter'

nah just bent people at the top, protecting themselves and their other mates in the same position. Seen it at work, literally corruption and NDA's.

 

[mid_gen]

I agree, why doesn't John's "Soggy Bottom" comment cause an issue?

Because he's talking about pastry.

The only think I can think is maybe the lady let the first comment "go", but on the second comment she decided enough was enough and spoke up.

If any of the on-air comments are an issue, then surely the editor/producers should also be held accountable to letting it air.
The off-air stuff I dont know enough to add anything to what's aready been said.

The whole thing is a bloody circus. The guy has the wrong idea about what is acceptable behaviour round strangers, and particularly in the workplace, and *especially* in TV, with a history of wrong'uns.

He should have just said 'sorry I've been out of line and displayed some poor judgement, I'll do better'.... and got on with it with a slap on the wrist.

Now it's just going to escalate and all the ragebait youtubers and Facebook bots will be stoking up culture war drivel and we'll never hear the end of it.

 

[dlockers]

He does seem to be built a little differently:

If he’s saying stuff like that with the cameras rolling, I could easily see him being a proper seedy sod in private.

You are triggered by that really? Munch his way through your little tart? :S I mean its literally a food called a tart. The other bloke said your tart has a soggy bottom which is even more innuendos.