Who has right of way?

R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
Indicators & ABS on mine, not that I have ever pulled the.

On the Scania 3 series, the speed limiter shared its fuse with the fuel heater - which you don't need in the UK 99% of the time - ahh! those were the days...... ;)
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Can't imagine what you mean :p

An HGV without indicators or ABS is hopefully a scary enough prospect for drivers not to try
 
My understanding is that the regulation concerned is the old "give way to traffic on the right", rather than to traffic on the main road.


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paddy said:
Can't imagine what you mean :p
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Erm, weather that meant we did not need fuel heaters, obviously. ;)

paddy said:
An HGV without indicators or ABS is hopefully a scary enough prospect for drivers not to try
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This is why they changed it to the indicators circuit on the "4 Series" and subsequently the ABS & Indicators on the "R Series" - effectively meaning the driver would get "done" for no limiter and driving with a major ABS fault (amber ABS warning lights being acceptable so long as the light is not on at the initial vehicle check at the start of the shift!)

This seems not to deter some - but not all - erm, "Paddys" :p, they simply re-wire the indicators etc onto a different circuit (not that many indicate!) ;)

Some, but not many, UK drivers clearly do this too (or use a magnet...)
 
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's similar to switching lanes, in the modern car as long as you use indicator, you can safely move from slip road onto the carriage way or from lane to lane the very moment you tap indicator stalk, because that creates time-space warp and all the traffic that could physically overlap with the space you intended to move into will simply get sent into hyperspace buffer and then "pasted" into space directly behind you. There is a characteristic screeching, high pitched, wooshy sound to the whole procedure, you probably noticed by now.

Additionally, if you're BMW owner, all the above is controlled by idrive, so you don't even have to indicate, just join/switch lanes and everything else is fully automatic.

(too much? too dry... I'll get my coat)
 
It's interesting you say that. I find sometimes at junctions I have a compulsion to screech the tyres and sound the horn, and every time I do, a BMW appears. I wonder if that coincidence.
 
It has always been the case that the person joining traffic have to adjust their speed to the main traffic and blend in with them
It is really dangerous, especially on the Motorway, motorists in the inside lane pulling out to let the joining driver into the lane instead of the person joining the traffic blending in with them and then everybody behind has to either slow down or move over to the lane to their right, no wonder there asre so many accidents at junctions.
Lorry drivers are especially good at this, signalling and moving out at the same time, whether there is someone coming up behind them or not, but thats another story
What is taught at driving schools, obviously not the correct way
 
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(amber ABS warning lights being acceptable so long as the light is not on at the initial vehicle check at the start of the shift!) - the idea being to deter this by passing.
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Nope.. We've had a memo on this (Renaults are great trucks but have uber ****** electrics). If the warning comes on Anywhere you have to stop & get roadside assistance.

Which is crazy.. It's just a damn sensor got its knickers in a twist (We get ESP faults as well). Some of us drove trucks before ABS was invented, And some of us (me) had 3 brand new trailers whilst they were developing it... That was scary

Basically when/if the trailer wheels locked the ABS would just release the (trailer) brakes for about 3 seconds. 3 seconds is an eternity when you have been caught out. Bloody good job I only carried empty plastic (Heinz) ketchup bottles back then (RPC Containers).

Lol.. I remember (1986) breaking a red line in Sheerness .. Switching the tap off and draining the trailer tank, then running home with no trailer brakes with 23 tonnes of paper reels on the back.. Yes.. around the M25 to the M11.

You learn to keep a BIG gap and pay attention at all times !!

re: the OP

It's always been the law to give way at the end of slip roads

It's also the law to give way to the LEFT as well at a T-Junction. That's what the DOUBLE broken white line means.

I remember being on the Deeping to Stamford road (near Tallington) and pulling out to overtake a tractor.. I could see a Tipper truck bombing up to the right over the hedgerows and though "If he's coming this way I hope he gives way".

I calculated if he didn't I would miss him by millimetres.

He didn't even look left.. I missed him by millimetres.. As I disappeared into the distance he was still in the middle of the road.

Obviously put the fear of God into him ( I was driving my RPC artic (15'9 tautliner))

Point is... I was aware because I could see him over the hedgerows.. A car driver could well have lost it in shock at the near hit.

A lesson well learnt ?
 
Well that can apply to most situations nowadays.

Im of the belief that your treat everyone on the road like they're an idiot, and you'll rarely get caught out.

And touch wood it's served me well, though you still get a surprise now and then.
 
while on the roads I'm amazed by the amount of people who must think what the op says is true.

I'm sitting at a constant speed and outside lane traffic steady going past, The amount of people joining the carriageway who draw level with you forcing you to brake or speed up is stupid.
 
[TW]Fox;20550737 said:
I genuinelly do worry about some of the people we have driving. Is this thread for real?
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shocking isnt it. I bet he also rushes over to the "fast" lane because he is doing 70 too, nearly causing a pile up in the process.
 
Ahem i said i believed the carriageway had right of way, and not the other way around :p

Stop turning my words around.
 
"Now i used to think it was traffic joining the slip road, until i heard that this was changed now traffic on the carriageway has right of way"


Its never changed though?! Not twisting words, its your words...
 
Outcast said:
Nope.. We've had a memo on this (Renaults are great trucks but have uber ****** electrics). If the warning comes on Anywhere you have to stop & get roadside assistance.

Which is crazy.. It's just a damn sensor got its knickers in a twist (We get ESP faults as well). Some of us drove trucks before ABS was invented, And some of us (me) had 3 brand new trailers whilst they were developing it... That was scary

Basically when/if the trailer wheels locked the ABS would just release the (trailer) brakes for about 3 seconds. 3 seconds is an eternity when you have been caught out. Bloody good job I only carried empty plastic (Heinz) ketchup bottles back then (RPC Containers).

Lol.. I remember (1986) breaking a red line in Sheerness .. Switching the tap off and draining the trailer tank, then running home with no trailer brakes with 23 tonnes of paper reels on the back.. Yes.. around the M25 to the M11.

You learn to keep a BIG gap and pay attention at all times !!
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Interesting! - I'm 99% sure I have had a memo stating the opposite - Red light = stop & call Scania / Volvo etc Amber light = defect @ end of shift. - I'll look into it tomorrow!

I've driven plenty of Non ABS equipped trucks and agree with you.

I imagine that Sheerness trip was a memorable one! :eek:
 
In this day of age, you're 100% right.

You have to gun it, otherwise there's some bmw/audi up your backside because you're taking up their personal lane. ;)

But that's another thread.

PMKeates said:
It has always been biggest/most horsepower wins.
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