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Who here is getting a Sandybridge-E Cpu?

So you've already tested it? Have you got any benchmarks handy?


No, what I did was, rather than listen to Intel fanboys, or AMD fanboys, I listened to WHAT INTEL HAVE SAID IVYBRIDGE IS!.

Its not a new architecture, its a tick, or a tock, whichever is the shrink with little change. Intel have already told us, 10% faster, of which just over half is IPC, the rest is clock speed. So we're basically look at a 3.6Ghz chip, which will be as fast as a 3.7Ghz Sandybridge, with a 50% bigger GPU, which will do exactly sweet nothing in 99% of your average OCUK gamers computers.

Will Intel underestimate or undersell their products and blow us away....... no, Intel firstly don't do that, secondly its 99% just a shrink thirdly, it follows every single rumour, to the letter, over the past year +.

Ivy bridge is a 98% known quantity, will FMA3 and XOP make a humoungous difference, some, in limited capacity, FMA4 + one of the best features removed = FMA3, XOP, 400% faster in operations that use XOP well, thats only part of encoding, it made a difference on Bulldozer and will make a bigger difference as proper encoder guys tweak software more than quickly hacking it in, but its not a game changer.

Will anyone notice 10% more performance on a Ivybridge, especially the majority of people who game.... who aren't even close to the CPU limits anyway.

I wouldn't buy a Sandy over a Ivy if both were out, I certainly wouldn't wait 6-8 months for a 10% performance improvement, if we were within 2 months of launch I might say wait, just incase any mobo issues pop up and you need a certain version of a mobo, also because there might be a few cut price 2600k's around.

A cut price 2600k with hyperthreading WILL spank a 3500k without hyperthreading in everything that uses more than 4 threads, which is a growing percentage of all apps.
 
Depends what app you use. I use handbrake and find unless I do 2 pass (which I do) then 4 cores with a high clock speed is enough. If you do 2 pass, then SB-E will be worth it trusting you get the 6 core. 12 threads will blast through 2 pass as HT makes quite an impact as it is with quads.

Thanks lay-z-boy,
I use Edius 6 and would, in longer projects use 2 pass.
I would also use TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 5.
Wonder what SB-E will cost compared to the 2600K? (I want Quicksync too btw)

thanks again.
 
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Already bought new case ram and a new sata 6gb ssd.

Going to LITs this weekend hoping to see some new X79 boards on show atm im tending towards the Asus P9X79 board.
 
Thanks lay-z-boy,
I use Edius 6 and would, in longer projects use 2 pass.
I would also use TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 5.
Wonder what SB-E will cost compared to the 2600K? (I want Quicksync too btw)

thanks again.
Current generation of quicksync doesn't have any real motion outside of terribad paid converters. Mainly as they designed it then went to the software guys who weren't all impressed. Ivy should get the quicksync train rolling but as it stands software encoding is still where it's at.

If you need it now, get the 2600k. You won't be disappointed. If you have the cash on hand + time to wait till its November release then SB-E hexas could be well worth it if absolute speed is of the essence. Ivy's are obviously an option if changing your system isn't in the cards till Q1-2 of next year.
 
I think SB-E for me... I'll be building fresh systems to add to the farm, so no need to maintain old sockets. I just hope OcUK are going to be offering some decent overclocked bundles, e.g. 4.5ghz 6-core with 16/32gb ram. I'll probably buy a couple of those if they're priced well.

edit. and i'm one who skipped sandy entirely. gone from i7 920 to 970 and now waiting for sandy-e. I do wish they'd bring out 8-core sandy-e chips though... need to upgrade soon. Don't fancy waiting until mid or late 2012.
 
Well from the Wiki (dont know if correct obviously).

Sandy Bridge
Up to 17% more CPU performance clock-for-clock compared to Lynnfield processors.
Around twice the integrated graphics performance compared to Clarkdale's (12 EUs comparison).

Ivy Bridge
Intel's performance targets (compared to Sandy Bridge)
20% increase in CPU performance.
Up to 60% increase in integrated graphics performance

Prob best to wait for Ivy bridge, i suppose.
 
Well from the Wiki (dont know if correct obviously).



Prob best to wait for Ivy bridge, i suppose.

Sounds like it from that list! Although which is the future-proof socket? If Ivy = current socket and Sandy-E = new socket, then I would have thought Sandy-E was more likely to be future-proof and the old socket would die out? Confused tbh.
 
To be honest, I'm sure you could EASILY put together two normal 2500/2600k systems for less than the price of one top end SB-E system aswell, all for studying for certification and not even for work, screams of massive massive overkill.

As this seems to be directed at me, I'll respond. My approach to building PCs used to be to upgrade almost everything in my system on a 12 to 18 month basis, getting the 10-15% increases you mention each time. My new approach is to build the best system I can afford without being wasteful, and then keep the system until it's no longer capable of meeting my requirements. I got my QX6700 in January 2007, and other than increasing the RAM to 16GB in 2009 and replacing a failed graphics card, it's not changed, and has only just started to feel limiting. The i7-3930k should also last a good three to four years, and no doubt I will upgrade to 64GB RAM as 8GB modules become more affordable. Running two or more systems is not something I am prepared to do.

I don't deny that SB-E isn't overkill or bad value for money, but those were not my greatest concerns in making this decision. I want my upgrade to be a huge leap in performance, not the incremental increase I'd get from an existing Sandy Bridge system.
 
I thinking this, itll be cheaper and much slower?
I doubt it'll be that much slower for even multi-threaded stuff, especially overclocked, assuming SB-E overclocks the same as SB. IPC improvements and higher clock rates will eat into that I would imagine. It'll be comparable to the current SB v Gulftown situation I would imagine.
 
Some pics of the SB-E demo I took during LITS on Sunday. Sorry for my poor photo skills :p. They had a game running on it, couldn't have a go on it as someone was hogging it. No idea if it was overclocked or at stock either...

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Another mention, I saw some OcUK staff at the Razer stand playing CS:S ;) They pwned me though... :(
 
Thank you for the photos, Orcvader. I am somewhat surprised by the heatsink/fan - from what I've been reading, I had anticipated 1kg of copper and dual fans, or a water-cooling setup. I know those DIMMs have novelty heatsinks on them making the HS/F look smaller, but even so, I was not expecting that.
 
I'm ashamed to say I have been waiting for the SB-e for a while and it's about time with my crusty setup :D. Really looking forward to the RAM (I bet quad channel kits will cost around 100quid for 16GB) -2 of those will do me nicely :D / don't game much personally. Will be grabbing cheapest 6core/12thread chip and will weigh merits of IV on socket 2011 when the time is right
 
Well I can't wait until the new year. I've promised my sister an upgrade to her S939 system so she's getting my current everyday rig & after reading this I'm getting a 2500K with 8gig ram for transcoding before Xmas. :)
 
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