Poll: Who will you be voting for on May 5th?

Which political party will you vote for?

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 187 20.5%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 311 34.1%
  • Labour

    Votes: 161 17.6%
  • Regional Party (Plaid Cymru, SNP, etc.)

    Votes: 23 2.5%
  • Issues Party (BNP, Greens, UKIP)

    Votes: 45 4.9%
  • Independent candidate

    Votes: 5 0.5%
  • Abstaining from voting

    Votes: 107 11.7%
  • Not eligible for voting

    Votes: 74 8.1%

  • Total voters
    913
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Weebull said:
Someone mentioned the Tories also planning to scrap tuition fees. Personally, considering they introduced them in the first place, I'm taking that with a large pinch of salt......Plus their idea of commercial-rate based student loans sounds horrible too.
You could say that. I'm sure they would stick to their promise of abolishing tuition fees mind. But their proposal leads to the positively ridiculous scenario of:

Person A - affluent background. Can go to University without needing to borrow money as parents will pay all their expenses. Pays nothing to the University for thier degree.

Person B - reasonably affluent background. Needs a medium loan to assist with living costs. Pays it off and so pays a medium amount to the University through interest payments on the loan.

Person C - poor background but just above the grant level. Needs a sizeable loan to pay living costs. Pays it off and pays a large amount to the University through interest payments on the loan.

Hmmmm.....anyone else spot the slight unfairness there? :rolleyes:
 
Greg said:
I was simply making a statment about what I feel, in reference to voting and following up and answering someone elses question. Whats wrong about that? Theres no need to be quite so blunt!

Of course, but coming into this thread and saying its rude to ask is pretty pointless. If you don't like it then there is no need to be posting here is there?
 
nero120 said:
Of course, but coming into this thread and saying its rude to ask is pretty pointless. If you don't like it then there is no need to be posting here is there?

Not really, Its a discussion about who we'll be voting for, I pointed out that I will be voting, but I'm not saying for who!

Can I suggest if you wish to continue this, you E-Mail me, I'm sure the tread starter doesn't want his thread trashed!
 
nero120 said:
I doubt anyone would say our economy is better than what labour inherited at the end of the tories reign.
You are joking, right? I don't see the mah00sive interest rates, the huge unemployment and the large number of properties being repossessed like they were when the Tories were in power.

K.
 
Greg said:
Not really, Its a discussion about who we'll be voting for, I pointed out that I will be voting, but I'm not saying for who!

Can I suggest if you wish to continue this, you E-Mail me, I'm sure the tread starter doesn't want his thread trashed!

I AM THE THREAD STARTER!!!!! MWWAAA HAAA HAAA HAAAA!!

No worries ;)
 
I'm getting quite bored of people using that old argument against the Conservatives:

"Oh, remember what it was like last time they were in power." :rolleyes:

Who's to say it'll turn out exactly the same as it did back then? Well it won't, not exactly the same anyway, that's impossible. They might even do a better job than Labour, actually, it's not hard to do a better job than Labour, lol.

I've hated Labour ever since they threatened to take away free flu jabs for Diabetics back in 2000, and I don't forgive easily.
 
Feek said:
You are joking, right? I don't see the mah00sive interest rates, the huge unemployment and the large number of properties being repossessed like they were when the Tories were in power.

K.

The large unemployment? Hmm. I doubt there are many more people actually working, but there are certainly a lot more people in education arent there?
 
nero120 said:
I AM THE THREAD STARTER!!!!! MWWAAA HAAA HAAA HAAAA!!

No worries ;)

D'OH!!!

/me dips head in shame!

Just pointing out really that not everyone wants to reveal who they vote for! :)
 
nero120 said:
The large unemployment? Hmm. I doubt there are many more people actually working, but there are certainly a lot more people in education arent there?

actually, there is now the most people in employment for 20 years.
 
Matblack said:
In all honesty I believe that the Labour party have done an OK job in the last few years. Yes, Iraq was a huge **** up and Blair is a sicaphantic twonk but they have taken taxes and turned them into a better economy and improved the health service and education marginally. However the ethical and political stance of the LDs appeal to me more and hence get my vote

MB

Improved education??!

I work in education and I can assure you that all Labour have done is siphon funds back out of it. They have year on year failed to increase the funding by the same amount as inflation, usually around 1~2% below it. Might not sound much but when you're talking millions of pounds, its a significant cut. Each year it gets harder for education to pay the necessary cost-of-living increases annually, let alone any pay rises. The government put in this great thing called Proffesional Standards Payments, which they give to teachers who are at the top of their pay scale. They funded it for the first year with money explicitly set aside for it, and gave us a plan to cover x years of PSP. Then what did they do the very next year? Withdraw PSP funding, and left us having to pay PSP with money we hadn't got, alongside the inflation increases. Most colleges are being forced into mergers with others to get some economies of scale. So far in this area I can think of 6 or 7 colleges that have merged, and I've seen the huge fallout from it. Whilst economies of scale have been good, the new infrastructure they have to use is abysmal and education standards have dropped. Again.

Labour has failed to take the bull by the horns and make the major change to the education structure after putting Mike Tomlinson to work on it for over 2 years. He came back with a frankly superb structure, produced in consultation with virtually all major colleges, teacher organisations, education thinktanks and what have you, it was a huge improvement over the fiasco we've got now and met all their criteria, but because the new education secretary wasn't prepared to make major decisions (and still isn't) it has been totally scrapped. Not even sidelined.

They did an absolute classic not 4 months ago. Withdrew all money from the Learning and Skills Council. The LSC had its financial year changed to March 31st. The government took the money out at the end of december and forced every institution that gets funded by them to run off their reserves for 3 whole months (imagine the salary bills alone..) before we'd get the money back. Education is not a cheap business and a good number of places had to take large loans out to survive. This particular time of year is one of the most expensive in education with the large amount of coursework projects being done, exams costs and god knows what else. Easter is usually used for major building work, but with no money most places have had to put off scheduled maintenance tasks. Some colleges came shockingly close to bankrupcy as a consequence of the withdrawl, and yet all this was so the government could give the LSC some money to start the new financial year with. All the whilst this is going on they've poured tens of billions of dollars into the war in Iraq. Talk about having priorities wrong.

This from a Labour government! They've always been the champions of education, arguing for more money to be put in, but we've not seen it these last two government terms. I'll admit outright, I'm a socialist in my political views, but I strongly dislike this labour government. They are in no way socialist.
 
Conservatives.

I'm sick to the back teeth with Tony Blair and his army of spin doctors. It's hard to tell if Michael Howard is genuine but I would certainly trust him over lying Tony Blair any day of the week.

People who want Labour out need to b a bit more tactical with their voting. Can someone explain the whole "swing" issue please.
 
mleh said:
actually, there is now the most people in employment for 20 years.

Where did you get your figures? Also, I think there is a helluva lot more personal debt than when the tories were in power, oh yeah, and the government debt! So, what is happening is we are getting more and more in debt and out of control, and people think our economy is in a good state??? Madness.
 
Even when Im old enough vote i wont, the taxes will never go down and they all lie anyway voting doesnt make any difference because all of them are the same.
 
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