Why are people so defensive about Nest?

platypus said:
Again, it's a somewhat different situation to getting equipment intended for clandestine recording so you can record people than it is to google glasses.
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I don't think google glasses are going to be a problem. No one will wear them much in public I don't think.
 
The thing is, the general public haven't a clue. If it wasn't for snowdon, we'd know even less.

You'd be amazed at the amount of intel the government has on us (apart from public facing services like the census we have to do, driving licences, passports etc etc - they seem to forget every 12 months lol) - but yeah, all our data has been recorded and stored for years.

Only now the technology has dropped in price for the public do we start to care. Obviously forgetting all the data we post about ourselves on facebook etc etc

mobile phones, doesn't mater if location services are on or not. They know!
 
covenantuk said:
People are forgetting one simple thing.

You don't have to use Google and you don't have to use their products. Google privacy problem solved.
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See the original post. You may not use any Google products directly but they will have a profile on you through Google Analytics and cookies.

deuse said:
Nothing here.
All this stuff has been around for years I wonder why google has bought this company
when it's only been going for two years. I wouldn't have anything like that in my place.
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Why wouldn't you? Why do you feel so strongly about the temperature of your house to not have one? Or is it purely there is no benefit (i.e. keep the same temperature 24/7).

A lot of Google execs use the product at home and they are interested in home automation, I wonder if Nest have several patents key to the area? I had known about it before they bought the product and was interested in getting one instead of Hive as it looked like the best one on the market.
 
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glen8 said:
I think the chap above made a good point. Whilst he might not be using a google product, someone might be recoding him with say google glass

or if he buys something on his credit card, his name off the card might be sent to them with the products he's just bought, which in turn spams him for stuff
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Yes this is what I was trying to get across.

Long term, ok it's a bit conspiracy theory type stuff, but it's really not hard to imagine Google using sophisticated facial recognition software (which they already have) to track someones movements, for whatever purpose.
 
I don't see where all the harm is. If they can use this "personal" information (i.e. what I listen to, where I go, what I buy and what I search for etc) to bring me better services or offers, or make their products behave more in my favour, then good.

It's like the thread complaining about adverts for charities and such - it's not targeted advertising. If the TV was able to report back who you were etc, it would be able to put on adverts you're more likely to enjoy. Oh no wait - THEY WILL KNOW ALL ABOUT US OMGEEE!!!!!111oneoneone

In other words, calm down. I agree with the OP; Google have most likely bought the device to allow cloud controls and better support - i.e. additions to gmail and your android phone to allow heating controls from out of the home that google apps will then learn, and suggest energy saving tactics etc.
 
bitslice said:
Why does it send the temperature of your house to google anyway?
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It's so that Google can determine the age group of the house inhabitants.

E.g. 1 - I'm mid-30s, pretty hot-bloodied, keep the house at around 20C and sleep with the bedroom window open.

E.g. 2 - I work with 3 people aged 60/61. My window is open and the thermometer reads 24C. They think that 24C is arctic conditions and because it's 3 of them and only 1 of me, they get the last say and tell me to close my window so that it hits 27C.
 
Trifid said:
See the original post. You may not use any Google products directly but they will have a profile on you through Google Analytics and cookies.
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Nope.


Why wouldn't you? Why do you feel so strongly about the temperature of your house to not have one? Or is it purely there is no benefit (i.e. keep the same temperature 24/7).
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I use a thermostat. It's done me proud for years.

A lot of Google execs use the product at home and they are interested in home automation, I wonder if Nest have several patents key to the area? I had known about it before they bought the product and was interested in getting one instead of Hive as it looked like the best one on the market.
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Smart homes have been around for ages. But now google do it it's OMG\OH LOOK FANNNNNNTASTIC....WHY DON'T YOU WANT IT ect.
 
anything I don't mind said:
Google scanning your fridge and suggesting items in your email based on that.
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If it linked up to your recycle bin it could automate your online shopping for you.

Actually if your fridge had a weight sensor it could predict when you were just about to run out of milk.

Maybe if it had a screen, it could list what you have in there and suggest a meal,
Instead of me standing there with the door open wondering what I can make with two eggs and some garlic.
 
Trifid said:
Do you prefer Google collecting data on everyone or the NSA? As it is no shock to any of us that Google collect data on you but it was that NSA and GCHQ does?
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The paranoia and thinking the government give a carp about you craze is just stupid.

As always, Doug Stanhope shows just how silly is all is when you think about it....

 
dirtychinchilla said:
As someone who works in the HVAC industry, this doesn't really seem to be the way forward. What we need much more of is better overall system design - most of you will probably be unaware that your condensing boiler never actually condenses anything as condensation occurs at around 50C and below, and the UK unfortunately is nearly all specced for 80C, at which water does not condense. This is tip of the iceberg, and the company I work for fights very hard to bring us closer to Danish standards, which are generally super efficient, as are their products.

Furthermore, they should be more interested in controlling the heating inside based ont he temperature outside.
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I see you're applying your Leeds Mech Eng degree!
 
I suppose when you look at it Google make pretty much all their money (billions a year) from advertising based on personal data, if they have bought a company somehow it will have to contribute towards that.
 
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