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Why are phones so expensive?

Discussion in 'Mobile Phones & Tablets' started by Hodders, Jun 16, 2019.

  1. 4K8KW10

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    I think the R&D involved in the creation of the Huawei P30 Pro is huge and the phone costing ~700 euros is a fair and justified price.

    I think Sony, Nokia, Samsung and Apple's phones don't deserve their pricetags because their capabilities are much lower.
     
  2. Haze

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    Would not waste my money on "flagship" phones any more, my Pocophone is just as good as any flagship phone that was out at the time
     
  3. james.miller

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    Just without NFC, wireless charging or an OLED panel, right?
     
  4. kona786

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    When has anything associated with the term flagship been value for money. Your paying for cutting edge/premium quality etc.
     
  5. Haze

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    WOW!!!!!!!! you are so right...... I miss not having that so much......
     
  6. james.miller

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    Here's the thing; you cant just discount features because they don't interest you - that's not how it works. The F1 was a great value phone but it categorically was not "as good as any flagship at the time".
     
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  7. 4K8KW10

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    And poor cameras without night vision :D
     
  8. tom_e

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    Launch price was 999 Euros for the base model and having owned one it didn't really justify it in real world usage.
     
  9. james.miller

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    And that lol
     
  10. JunglistE

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    They are getting more expensive but when I consider how much I use them I don't mind it as much. I'd still rather it be cheaper but when people make comparisons between things "Oh you could get a decent gaming laptop for the same price as an XS Max". Perhaps. But those things wont get used as much as a phone.

    I'd argue that today a phone is better value than most other things when you consider how much you use them.
     
  11. 4K8KW10

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    I bought my VKworld S8 for 176$ directly from Hong Kong, paid the DHL shipping and VAT, and got a very decent phone with excellent display quality and amazing battery.
    Right now, it is on its way to get 17 days of life!
     
  12. Psycho Sonny

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    Not really. Everyone I know pays monthly. Now they get more for their money. Before they got phone and calls. Now they get data, etc.

    I know someone who is looking at a new iphone for his mrs. £60 a month. for 60GB of data unlimited calls and texts.

    Paying monthly the real cost is hidden to a lot of people. All they see is £60 rather than £1400 over 2 years.
     
  13. cadmunkey

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    I'm just coming to the end of an 18 month contract so have been looking today at new deals. Couldnt believe that a lot of firms are now doing 3 year contracts, 18 months was bad enough.
    Its no longer a phone contract in a traditional sense, its basically a loan deal on an expensive handset nowadays! The prices are crazy, PCP for phones.
     
  14. Psycho Sonny

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    in home cinema someone said spec me a 55" tv for £400. and i said that any tv of that size and price new would be garbage and i was told that wasn't true. but it is. it wouldn't do 10 bit HDR, likely have a terrible panel with bleed, blooming, DSE, all sorts of issues. crappy electronics and poor smart offerings.

    sure a £400 tv can still display a picture but it's not the same thing.

    tv's go up to £100K though. 98inch OLED's for example. there are a lot more people buying flagship phones than there are flagship tv's because it's pay monthly. when you package something as pay monthly then people will spend more.

    also phones nowadays are pretty much a status symbol for this generation and the sheep. they use them everyday so to them £60 a month is nothing. tbh they spend £100 a month on their sky packages so in keeping with that it's probably a fair price.

    i'll never spend more than £300 on a phone and i'll stick to stuff like samsung A70 or second hand. i tried cheap chinese phones and their software sucked. a lot of the obscure apps i use weren't compatible.
     
  15. ttaskmaster

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    Never paid more than £20 for a phone... and then only because it was £20 a month for the phone, plus 100GB of data, unlimited txts and calls, all included...

    But many thanks to those who did pay more, as it made my 'flagship' model wonderfully cheap!!
     
  16. Siver74

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    I always thought it was because manufacturers have the guts to do so. And it has worked for products like the iPhone. No matter how absurd the prices go for the latest model you will always hear of people lining up ahead of the release just to grab em first.
     
  17. robj20

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    Maths fail. Lol
     
  18. ttaskmaster

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    My existing contract was £20 SIM-only for 1GB, unlimited texts and 1,000 minutes.
    I was offered an upgrade, to carry on paying the same price for 100GB, unlimited text and unlimited minutes, with the phone thrown in for a one-off payment of £20.
    The phone cost me £20. How is that a maths fail? Lol.
     
  19. robj20

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    Who are you with that gives you basically a free phone.
     
  20. ttaskmaster

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    Vodafone. They're the only carrier who gets a signal of more than one bar in our area.
    But it wasn't free, it was £20. Just a one-off payment, is all. My contract was old and they just wanted me upgraded to something from at least this century!

    I could have had a free phone, but it would have been a silly little **** one like a Sony Cool-Kid Nano Junior that only came in pink, or whatever. I wanted a nicer one, so they charged me a nominal £20 for it.