Why do bikers..

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ride like they have nothing to live for ?

I've been commuting into North London for the last few weeks and the stuff I've seen bikers do has really amazed me. They seem to have no idea or couldn't careless about the highway code. I know it's not just the bikers, you get them drivers cars too but the shear percentage of bikers I see doing this. I've seen them veering down the road, speeding, swerving between traffic, riding down the wrong side of the road, riding through red lights and overtaking while the car in front is trying to let another car out - this nearly ends in the bikes riding straight into the cars bonnet as it cuts across the lane to make a right turn.

I've also seen all these adverts recently that say "think bike !" that's aimed at car drivers, from what I've seen these are aimed at the wrong people. Car drivers don't care about bikes, they're bigger, the worst they'll get is a dent. The bikers though are likely to get squished and from what I've seen it's usually the bike performing an illegal manoeuvre or overtaking which is done at their own risk anyway.

What makes it worse they seem to think they're in the right, although could have been a one off incident. I had one biker moan earlier in the week, my dad stopped at a pedestrian crossing when the lights turned red, a moped driving down the wrong side of the road stops at the lights to the right of the car. As they turn green my dad pulls away faster than the bike, as the bike catches up a bike following it looks in the window and says "how big does he feel for trying to race a moped off the lights", he wasn't but it meant the moped was stuck on the wrong side of the road with on coming traffic. At which point I told him to **** off and to get on the right side of the ****ing road.

What I can't understand is why they ride so recklessly knowing they're so fragile through car drivers who half the time don't see them, if it was me I'd be ****ting my self ?

MW
 
Your sat in a cage and have seen some irresponsible riders, i sit on a bike a see not only irresponsible riders but also irresponsible car drivers and push bike riders who are just as bad if not worse. The thing to remember is that although we only remember the idiots we see, there are a lot of good riders/drivers out there else it would be total carnage!

This is true, I followed a BMW driver about 2 weeks ago who did everything he could to drive fast through the traffic, he was weaving through lanes, going through lights and driving down side roads to skip queuing traffic. He really didn't care about anyone else's safety.

The thing with car drivers is they have a nice metal cage to keep them safe and at these low speeds not very likely to get hurt. Bikers on the other hand go to even further lengths to get through traffic regardless of safety/law, and most car drivers only look what's in front of them not expecting traffic overtaking when manoeuvring. With this in mind I would have thought they would be more careful

MW
 
How is a fact retarded i am not saying it has the power accelaration or top speed of a F1 car what is retaded is you cant read a comment mglover070588 what i said is they have a power to wight ration of a f1 car which means for the 5 to 10 K you pay for a bike your getting the perfomance you would pay for a car a couple of 100K

And your telling me you never go over 70mph ???????

Cars can speed too you know, might take longer to get there, so I don't see how this is a relevant excuse for bikes to exceed the speed limit.

MW
 
How is that related to anyone elses safety, that's just not being an idiot? :confused:

True that actually sounds like a smart move reading that back but if you saw the way he did it though then you'd realise what I meant. It was more dangerous and idiotic than smart, he was just in a serious hurry and didn't care who got in his way and how he got passed them.

Sorry but that is an absolutely classic car driver comment. Other vehicles don't come from 'nowhere', it simply means your observations are inadequate.

All road vehicles can come from nowhere but it happens regularly with bikes as cars would suddenly appear and then either overtake to the right or stay in your rear mirror. Bikes weave from between vehicles, from behind traffic and change lanes and don't always overtake on the right. They also tend to be moving more quickly giving the driver even less time to notice them.

MW
 
The massive amount of acceleration available on a bike is also alien to most car drivers

That's kinda the problem, even if you're checking your mirrors regularly you can still quite easily miss a bike from the split second of checking your mirror to the few splits seconds following that you signal and maneuver

MW
 
The vast majority of bike hate is envy in my eyes.

Not for me, if I wanted to ride then I'd buy a bike (I actually have a thread open looking for a new car). I'd rather be comfortable in my car with a radio, heating/aircon, phone (when stationary :p) and passengers to talk too then getting a few miles further down the road. What this thread was about was the way bikers ride, they seem to compromise their safety in exchange for getting through traffic quicker. The blame then gets shifted to car drivers who couldn't care less because they see they're doing nothing wrong.

MW
 
You do bring up the typical assumptions with the car>bike argument though that shows youre no biker. :)

Comfortable? Im not less comfy on my bike than in my car tbh.
Radio? Headphones.

Heating/Aircon - Well let me put it this way .. Ive yet to have a cold morning yet. The right kit makes all the difference and I find myself colder when driving about as the heater dependancy makes you somewhat less used to the air temps. My visor does a brilliant job of aircon and that cant be beaten on a nice sunny day tbh.
Phone.. well thats up to you. I dont use my phone while driving but I do enjoy being nearly wiped out by the massive amount of people who still drive with them to their ears.
Passengers, well whatever floats your boat. I dont have any passengers to commute with in the car either..!

I dont know.. most people who dont ride come up with the same come backs and if they were truly as disadvantageous as you suggest then why do you think people still ride?

I know that I like having supercar performance and a massively quicker route into work (Bus lane bonus++), the ability to park on a pay and display road for free right outside my office, the 10quid a week it costs me to commute where the car costs £45, etc.

Were not riding like maniacs. Youve just clearly never ridden.

I have ridden briefly before, I used the cycle paths we have here, didn't fancy my luck on the dual carriage ways as I felt too vulnerable.

Riding a bike may not be uncomfortable but there's no way you can say it's as comfortable as a car.

I don't suffer from a long, expensive, congested route to work nor do I have trouble parking at home or work, so I'm lucky enough not to have to ride a bike.

Driving fast isn't the problem, it's the environment around you that determines a safe speed and London is one long gauntlet :(

MW
 
Are you talking about cycling? :rolleyes:

Nope, we have cycle paths here for bicycles and motor bikes

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MW
 
Based on your posts in this thread......

You tried biking, didnt see it through for long and stopped.

yeah at 16 I couldn't get a car.

I have nothing against bikers, it's just the last few weeks commuting into North London has opened my eyes them.

MW
 

You imagine wrong sir!
Perfect for riding a bike, seemed to me that the majority of buffoons and post lobotomy road users(cars and bikes) werent out today. Less traffic meant I could ride on the snow easily and had to only deal with slush on the visor and a wet roads once into the city itself.

Well from my general observation I've seen less bikes than normal so maybe they're not all as hardcore as you guys ? :p

MW
 
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