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My biggest pet peeve is the double whammy.
Someone that does 35 in a 30 and 45 in a 40, but then does 45 in a 60. Absolutely killer
Why do people think it acceptable to break the Speed Limit.
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My biggest pet peeve is the double whammy.
Someone that does 35 in a 30 and 45 in a 40, but then does 45 in a 60. Absolutely killer
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Of course it would!
Remember, this is the internet where you can be anything you want. So we get it, your 71mph Vauxhall with 56bhp is actually a Bugatti Chiron which you drive at 300mph in foreign lands and track only, and only use the “fast lane” to overtake a horse box doing 30mph - and then only occasionally because you are a model citizen.
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So you think @Howling has constructive points? And that The Law requires validation? I don't require validation of my opinions.
I actually want to change the public's mindset towards speeding. That to me is constructive. Trying to validate speeding is not.
The gist of Howling's argument was that speed enforcement is simply money gathering, which seems to be a widespread opinion.
Perhaps people who have this opinion should investigate exactly where the money from speed enforcement goes.
You seem to be accusing me of being something I'm not, without knowing me in any way at all.
I don't own a Vauxhall, and I have no idea what you have against Vauxhall drivers.
I wish I had the money for a Chiron, and I do try to obey the Law. I'm not 100% sure why you think I'm lying.
Don't put words in my mouth. I said you want validation. You do; that's why you're posting this on a tech forum. You will change no opinions on here and you know it.
Get campaigning to the real general public, not the stubborn know it alls on here. When will we see Gepetto on a billboard or telly advert campaigning for changes to speeding offences? I think never.
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Because with your post, you’re coming across as some sort of driving angel, which I think is BS. At least you’ve admitted it, you “try to obey the law” - so by definition, can we assume you’ve at least broken the speed limit at least once? Or are you suggesting you haven’t, but have broken some other, presumably less important (In your eyes) law? If so, what kind of law have you tried not to break?
As I said in my first reply, speed is fun but context is key. You make sweeping statements and conclusions “stiffer consequences” based on a set of limits which are what? 60/70 years old? It’s ridiculous.
So I make a comment to see if you bite and of course you do. So either you apparently have a fast car, but don’t drive it fast because “Bound by limits of the law” in which case what’s the point of owning said car, or you drive some slow POS and don’t understand ‘speed’ - which is it?
These are the absolute worst kind of people, and they are frighteningly common.
The '40 everywhere' lot need their licences taken away from them.
So often i end up rubber banding behind someone as they crawl at 40mph through nice clear wide derestricted A or B roads, and then continue on at the same speed through small villages/past schools where it is a 20 or 30 limit.
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Whats the OP’s choice of car got to do with anything?
Yes, we need more policing and stricter sentencing but I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
I also agree that context is important. A competent driver doing 80 on a quiet stretch of motorway vs an idiot doing 80 whilst texting their pals on a busier stretch is vasty different.
Yes, we need more policing and stricter sentencing but I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
I also agree that context is important. A competent driver doing 80 on a quiet stretch of motorway vs an idiot doing 80 whilst texting their pals on a busier stretch is vasty different.
People generally drive at the speed they feel comfortable at, which sometimes is over the posted limit. I was driving at 115MPH recently, not gaining at all on the cars in front of me, cars to the right of me still doing 20MPH+ over the limit, nobody died. I even have a video of it which I'm sure would cause much wailing and gnashing of teeth if I posted it 
It's interesting there are so many motorists here implicitly acknowledging that it's perfectly fine for cyclists to jump red lights when it's appropriate and safe to do so. Right?
Weird that the more common narrative is that they don't deserve any respect because they don't follow the rules.
Weird that the more common narrative is that they don't deserve any respect because they don't follow the rules.
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Everything. It gives us an idea of how they perceive and manage speed.
For example, before police interceptors was a main stream program, there was one particular ‘police/traffic police’ style program. 3 Policeman wanted to become high speed pursuit drivers. One chap was an ex RAF pilot and owned a hot hatch, he was given the keys to the 3.0 senator, under a mock scenario, on a public road and told to get there as fast and safely as possible.
He did it without issue, in fact he was so good he was too good. For example carrying out over takes, being very verbose about his environment, the car, what was going on and he passed.
The other guy, a family man who owned something like a 1.3 Austin Maestro, which was gutless. He was both intimidated by the police car, but more over, he kept hesitating. The instructor had to give him several queues to over take, saying “Trust the car” in terms of having the ability to accelerate safely. The guy ultimately failed the course because he simply couldn’t get past the mental of block of having something way faster than a 1.3.
I have a ‘fast’ car on my fleet, I also have a slow car on my fleet and my driving styles for both are very different for good reason which is why context is key.
I have no problems with cyclists jumping red lights when it’s appropriate and safe to do so.
I think it's very appropriate if it saves them getting squashed tbh
Wow. I give you 1/10 for reading comprehension. Try reading what I actually write instead of going "oh he just disagrees with me so I'm gonna make it up".
Bro literally starts a thread asking a question, then ignores everyone who doesn't just nod along and agree with him. People say something that might actually be useful in addressing his problem but it's not what he wants.. Man, you're actually the worst. First guy on my ignore list (even with all the time I spend on the GPU forums), grats. Peace out.
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I get your point but none of that really matters as there’s all manner of cars and competencies on the roads so the rules are set to cater for all. We’re deviating from the OP’s original question which is stiffer sentencing for crimes committed. I wholeheartedly agree that there’s a difference between being a few mph over and utterly reckless driving.
I have a bigger problem with people on phones or otherwise distracted while driving.
Or those that aren't necessarily speeding but weaving in and out of traffic sometimes on blind bends to get about 5 metres further down the road.
It's just bad driving.
A speeding good driver is safer than a bad driver at any speed. Trouble is people often overestimate how good they are and/or the competence of other drivers.
Or those that aren't necessarily speeding but weaving in and out of traffic sometimes on blind bends to get about 5 metres further down the road.
It's just bad driving.
A speeding good driver is safer than a bad driver at any speed. Trouble is people often overestimate how good they are and/or the competence of other drivers.
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If it’s a red light it is not appropriate.
How do you get to that conclusion?
There’s obviously levels of breaking the law, that’s why different offences have different punishments.
Doing 50mph in a 30mph during the school run is very different to doing 90mph on an empty motorway. Even though they’re both the same as 20mph over the limit but there’s a common sense difference between the two.
Though as they say, common sense isn’t so common.