Sunama, you keep using FF deadlift vid as an example of him not doing it for the women but its not the *actual* training that impresses the chicks its the results, the mass, the definition.
Surely that's a good thing.......you wouldn't want me as a step dad/brother in law![]()

Nope. Bodybuilding is about building as much muscle as possible, in the first instance. Once you have packed on enough, you fine tuning your body and looking for weak areas and symmetry.

If you look at FreeFaller's deadlift vid, do you honestly believe that many, if any, women have seen it? Why on Earth would he bother?
There are a lot of men and women out there who train hard for their own reasons (not involving sex). A lot of these people are happily married, with families and have no intention to attract a mate. Yet they train.


Which is exactly the same as improving your appearance![]()
I thought FF posted that for ppl to check out his form? and besides, as MTA said the gym is just the workshop, its the end results that are the important part in bodybuilding.
So you don't think that some men/women train to look great for their partners too then? I know i have always wanted to look good for my girlfriends when i strip off![]()
Bodybuilding is all about the flange mate![]()
muscle fibre hypertrophy? esp when you're deadlifting ~200kg.How are 1 rep sets going to build muscle?

Thing is though chaps, not all ladies like muscles or big men. We have to remember that it's a diverse world out there and some people like some things and others don't. I have women friends who hate big muscles, they prefer skinny men, likewise I know some that like "big" chaps without necessarily being defined or built. I'm not denying a lot of them like a good looking body, but a lot of them don't like it when guys are "too big".
The vid I posted was for a) checking my form b) why the hell not post it I was happy with the lift c) share my achievements - 200kg+ DLs are something to be proud of d) show off![]()

It isnt. Adding muscle to your body doesnt necessarily improve your appearance. Its subjective.
I have no idea what flange is, so cant argue this point.

It is. I've never seen anyone who looks worse off for having more muscle. Bodybuilding is all about appearance. We're not talking powerlifting here.
Tbh, i find it baffling why some have a hard time admitting that they bodybuild to improve their appearance. Maybe they would't feel "hardcore" enough?. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
First you say it's all about sex/women, now you say it's all about apperance
Wait...what? First you say it's all about sex/women, now you say it's all about apperance. They're two seperate things. Appearance I guess is part of it for me but it's not about women or sex, it's building self confidence and pride in myself.

Flex it in front of other guys while squeeling "chase me"?

Another good reason is the fact that you get very little bother when your so big and it's quite obvious you could beat someone.
If there were no women in the world, would you still aim for an adonis type phisique? Honestly?
If so, what would you do with your muscle? Touch it? Stroke it? Kiss it? Maybe give it a little lick now and then? Flex it in front of other guys while squeeling "chase me"?
It's really all about mans most basic instict...Flange![]()
Although I believe that can also work the other way and you get people with "small man syndrome" coming up to you trying to prove how hard they are.
Dont you just love walking down the street and watching people have a peak at your arms or another gym rat giving you the nod
It's like a secret club, where everyone can tell who's really a member and who's just a foney.
And I have 17.5" arms! 
