Why does the UK hate cyclists?

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Flooring it past cyclists isn’t the worst idea in the world, assuming you’re giving decent room. If it gets you out of the way quicker that’s not a bad result.
 
Flooring it past cyclists isn’t the worst idea in the world, assuming you’re giving decent room. If it gets you out of the way quicker that’s not a bad result.

yep i prefer people to floor it past me if they have enough space instead of going slow and me wondering why their not over taking when theres space etc and then when they do decide they will over take very very slowly right alongside me barely going any faster than me......
 
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I wear cycling apparel for the same reasons. My commute is only 6.5 miles but I chug along on my MTB at 16mph - 18mph average and get a good sweat on usually. I'd rather not do that in my normal clothes. Also chafing can happen if I cycle in pants / clothing with seams down in the lower regions.

So why don't you want to cycle slower, say 10mph like the Dutch Von mentioned, and arrive at work in your normal clothes and not sweaty? What is it that you feel "forces" you to cycle with so much effort you need specialist clothes and arrive to work sweaty? It can't be the time it takes because you'll need a 15min shower/dry/change after a cycle like that and over 6.5 miles the time difference between 10mph and 18mph is only 3 minute extra plus a huge amount less hassle.

I'm a member of the nice and relaxed 10mph club so I'll admit I struggle to understand the urge to cycle at max effort if it's not a race, for fun (MTB etc).
 
question btw, why do car drivers on the opposite side of the road feel like they need to shout at me, my fat ass on a road bike or a mountain bike on the opposite side going in the opposite direction has no effect on them what so ever but still i get random ones shouting..... and you can't even hear what they shout properly lol
 
So why don't you want to cycle slower, say 10mph like the Dutch Von mentioned, and arrive at work in your normal clothes and not sweaty? What is it that you feel "forces" you to cycle with so much effort you need specialist clothes and arrive to work sweaty? It can't be the time it takes because you'll need a 15min shower/dry/change after a cycle like that and over 6.5 miles the time difference between 10mph and 18mph is only 3 minute extra plus a huge amount less hassle.

I'm a member of the nice and relaxed 10mph club so I'll admit I struggle to understand the urge to cycle at max effort if it's not a race, for fun (MTB etc).

Because it is part of my daily exercise to keep myself fit and healthy. I unfortunately do get a sweat on relatively easily too even though I class myself as being physically fit. I'm also not pushing myself flat every day. If I were riding as if I were riding a 10mile TT I'd be faster still. I am an engineer so whilst I support shop floor my job is pretty sedentary. My cardio exercise each day is my cycling and during my half hour lunch break I go to the work gym and do a resistance workout. My work has a lifestyle account scheme which means they match money I contribute up to £300 to go towards the purchase of sporting equipment. I get all my cycle clobber pretty cheaply, about 35-40% of displayed price. It's not the force I cycle with that forces me to wear the clothing either. Having worn both I know which is more comfy for me to wear so I'll just continue to wear that :) If others cannot comprehend that in doing this it doesn't mean I'm practicing for the Tour De France well that's not my problem :)

I don't mind being sterotyped as a lycra lout or whatever. I know as far as cyclists go I'm very courteous and follow the rules. I drive an Audi but also very unlike the stereotypical Audi driver does :D I'm all out to give people the shock effect!
 
Because it is part of my daily exercise to keep myself fit and healthy. I unfortunately do get a sweat on relatively easily too even though I class myself as being physically fit. I'm also not pushing myself flat every day. If I were riding as if I were riding a 10mile TT I'd be faster still. I am an engineer so whilst I support shop floor my job is pretty sedentary. My cardio exercise each day is my cycling and during my half hour lunch break I go to the work gym and do a resistance workout. My work has a lifestyle account scheme which means they match money I contribute up to £300 to go towards the purchase of sporting equipment. I get all my cycle clobber pretty cheaply, about 35-40% of displayed price. It's not the force I cycle with that forces me to wear the clothing either. Having worn both I know which is more comfy for me to wear so I'll just continue to wear that :) If others cannot comprehend that in doing this it doesn't mean I'm practicing for the Tour De France well that's not my problem :)

I don't mind being sterotyped as a lycra lout or whatever. I know as far as cyclists go I'm very courteous and follow the rules. I drive an Audi but also very unlike the stereotypical Audi driver does :D I'm all out to give people the shock effect!

very well said, i don't drive but i have racked up over 1300 nearly 1400 miles this year with cycling which is mostly on roads, i wear cheapo decathlon gear high vis vest or jacket and a helmet and gloves etc and that is all, i find my normal trackies to be comfortable so i wear them under the other stuff and i don't judge people for wearing lycra, i do wonder why though people wear it and now i know :)

i get bad chaffing at times lol maybe i should start using vaseline between my thighs?

that last question about vaseline was serious im ok if i ride my mtb but the road bike is chaffing me :(
 
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So why don't you want to cycle slower, say 10mph like the Dutch Von mentioned, and arrive at work in your normal clothes and not sweaty? What is it that you feel "forces" you to cycle with so much effort you need specialist clothes and arrive to work sweaty? It can't be the time it takes because you'll need a 15min shower/dry/change after a cycle like that and over 6.5 miles the time difference between 10mph and 18mph is only 3 minute extra plus a huge amount less hassle.

I'm a member of the nice and relaxed 10mph club so I'll admit I struggle to understand the urge to cycle at max effort if it's not a race, for fun (MTB etc).
12 miles to work here... I would hypothetically either have a shower at home before I cycle in to work, or at home once I’ve cycled, so all riding slowly would do is add time as I need a shower somewhere. I’d get super bored as I added another 20 minutes of boring riding to my commute. I’d also get abuse from drivers for being too slow, obviously. And of course it would be pointless as soon as it rained or the toads were even slightly dirty. I’m not sure what I stand to gain by riding at 10mph!
 
Commuting to work, I can either shower at home or at work, either way I have to take the time to shower. I'd rather cycle at a decent speed (it's fun for a start, I'd not particularly enjoy cycling slowly) in my cycling gear and get showered etc. at work, fresh for the day.

If you enjoy cycling slowing in your normal clothes, well good for you.
 
Curious. You don’t need a license to use one but having your license for something else revoked would make it a crime to use one.


I would have expected you of all people to have their cycling facts straight, but this will guide you:

https://www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules

You do not need a licence, excise tax or liability insurance to ride an electrically assisted bicycle below 250 Watts power output and limited to no longer give assistance above 15.5 MPH

The fact you have been banned from holding a driving licence for whatever reason is irrelevant.
 
very well said, i don't drive but i have racked up over 1300 nearly 1400 miles this year with cycling which is mostly on roads, i wear cheapo decathlon gear high vis vest or jacket and a helmet and gloves etc and that is all, i find my normal trackies to be comfortable so i wear them under the other stuff and i don't judge people for wearing lycra, i do wonder why though people wear it and now i know :)

i get bad chaffing at times lol maybe i should start using vaseline between my thighs?

that last question about vaseline was serious im ok if i ride my mtb but the road bike is chaffing me :(

Vaseline can start staining clothes I believe so not ideal in my opinion. There are specific butt creams that can be used to prevent chaffing but I've never used them myself. I've managed several 100mile rides with a load of sudocream slopped onto me where required. I will say that over that distance the sudocream didn't last due to sweat. I know people that have used the specific stuff and they said it lasts the duration. The big thing for me is the seams of normal clothes causing my issues. Lycra is also tight so shall not have any rubbing effect on the skin, which sounds more like the problem you have? You can get normal looking clothing with cycle pads fitted inside these days if you don't like the lycra look. Not sure how well they stay in position whilst cycling though. Or just wear lycra under your trackies though you'll find you slip around on the saddle a bit more than usual if you do this.

Your saddle type might can also have an impact on chaffing. If you ride a bike where you sit quite upright you can use a wider saddle however if you ride a bike where your upper body is pitched forward a narrower saddle should be used. You'll just have to use process of elimination to figure out what is causing the chafe. As you mention it's on your thighs my money is on the loose trackies rubbing over your skin, a bit like runners who get raw nipples due to T-shirt rub.
 
Wearing jeans on a 30 mile bike ride doesn't bother me. Although if I'm going out specially on a bike ride I'll wear lyca, but if I've got work or doing normal stuff wear regular clothes.
 
I would have expected you of all people to have their cycling facts straight, but this will guide you:

https://www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules

You do not need a licence, excise tax or liability insurance to ride an electrically assisted bicycle below 250 Watts power output and limited to no longer give assistance above 15.5 MPH

The fact you have been banned from holding a driving licence for whatever reason is irrelevant.
Ok, but it was whichever mod suggested you would be violating the ban, not me. I have no interest in electric bikes, save overtaking them under my own steam, so I’m not super familiar with the rules.
 
I hate winter cyclist`s because they think its now cool to have a light that burns your retina everything it flashes 2million Candella direct into your eyes,

Let us not forget while same idiot with tyres 10mm wide hurtles down the outside of cars in in 15mph traffic, gets knocked off its not his fault as he is a cyclist......
 
I hate winter cyclist`s because they think its now cool to have a light that burns your retina everything it flashes 2million Candella direct into your eyes,

Let us not forget while same idiot with tyres 10mm wide hurtles down the outside of cars in in 15mph traffic, gets knocked off its not his fault as he is a cyclist......

If you're going to insult please be accurate.

Thinnest are 18mm, but those aren't common. 23mm are the thinnest modern race tyres now.
 
Let us not forget while same idiot with tyres 10mm wide hurtles down the outside of cars in in 15mph traffic, gets knocked off its not his fault as he is a cyclist......

Nah, probably more likely to be 23mm, maybe 25mm. And even possibly 28mm. Wider tyres are getting more popular now.
 
To be honest cyclists that use lights inappropriately annoy the hell out of me too. Though let's not pretend that the issue is just a cyclist one. There are plenty of drivers driving around with inappropriately bright/angled headlights too. They're just as blissfully unaware of the dazzling effect they have on others as the cyclists that stupidly angle their lights upwards or run lights without appropriate lenses.
 
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