Why dont dell build a glossy u2711?

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Seeing as a lot of people (me included) would like the quality of the dell IPS manufacture and the warranty they give why wouldn't they look at a part of the market where it seems only the hazro resides?

Surely it wouldn't take much to just not apply the anti glare? Unless there's a huge office market for the anti glare just seems they are missing a trick
 
Well unfortunately the Dell U2711 is an office monitor and it is designed first and foremost with business users in mind. I would absolutely love to see a glossy (or at least very lightly AG-coated) 'version' come out from Dell at some point and you can but hope. The upcoming S27A850, which I believe you've read about, supposedly uses a much lighter haze coating than the Dell and can potentially offer similar performance with srGB better vibrancy and clarity.
 
I'd personally love to see a few more glossy screened monitors on the market. They're almost impossible to track down. Hazro and HP seem to be the only people who do them. I'm hanging on to my HP w2408h until it breaks.
 
Yes barring a miracle from dell (because to have 2 of the same bezel design etc would look lovely on the desk) the Samsung is the one I hope I will be able to replace the u2410 with.

I just think dell could make a decent amount from a glossy u27 with minimal costs to them over the current one
 
reflux said:
I'd personally love to see a few more glossy screened monitors on the market. They're almost impossible to track down. Hazro and HP seem to be the only people who do them. I'm hanging on to my HP w2408h until it breaks.
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My laptop is glossy and it is a ******* nightmare to use, even inside without the light on during the day. The reflections are just so obvious and annoy me. The screen does look very nice, but the reflections are terrible. There is no chance of using it in a bright place and certainly not in the garden.
 
mglover070588 said:
My laptop is glossy and it is a ******* nightmare to use, even inside without the light on during the day. The reflections are just so obvious and annoy me. The screen does look very nice, but the reflections are terrible. There is no chance of using it in a bright place and certainly not in the garden.
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Yup, the reflections can be a pain, which I guess is why manufacturers don't make more of them. They're a bit of an acquired taste, but personally I'd take glossy over matte any day.
 
al4x said:
Surely it wouldn't take much to just not apply the anti glare? Unless there's a huge office market for the anti glare just seems they are missing a trick
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Bingo. :)

I guess they've crunched the numbers and decided that the additional (consumer/enthusiast) turnover to be gained from a glossy alternative wouldn't justify the costs of tooling up, and carrying stocks of both versions... it's not as though the issue hasn't been brought to their attention, loudly and vociferously, for some time now.

At least they seem to be heading down the less-grainy route with the 2412M, although again it will necessarily be a compromise between two conflicting requirements.
 
reflux said:
Yup, the reflections can be a pain, which I guess is why manufacturers don't make more of them. They're a bit of an acquired taste, but personally I'd take glossy over matte any day.
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I know I keep banging on about this but there isn't a one-size-fits-all as far as anti-reflective coatings go. I mean most of them are embarssingly called 'anti-reflective' as you might as well be using a mirror instead. I have a number of laptops in my home with glossy screens and I find them an absolute nightmare to use on a bright day - particularly if their are windows behind them. I am currently working on an article exploring the differences between matte and 'anti-reflective' coatings as well as looking at some alternatives - Samsung's Ultra Clear panel coating and lighter haze coatings. I have already higlighted some visible differences (photographically) between a typical anti-reflective coating and UCP of the S/T27A950 in the most recent review on my website (some quick thoughts on that here). The most significant difference, which is hard to show photographically, is that typical AR coatings tend to suffer from bleaching under indirect but bright light whereas the UCP seems relatively unaffected by this. I am currently awaiting a sample of the 750 series as a knowledgable Samsung engineer (who is very interested in my upcoming article) has told me that the UCP is variable in its intensity and the 950 and 750 don't necessarily share the same anti-reflective properties.
 
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My U2711 broke and I now have a refund. The antiglare was very annoying and I am kind of happy now that the panel was faulty

I rang Dell yesterday on 01344 373000 and tried to explain how bad the antiglare was and that I wouldnt buy another U2711 because of this. I told them to make a note of the call and possibly suggest something to a manager/fanufacturing. Doubtfull anything else will be done or logged unless a few more people complain to them.

01344 378887 then dial the extension 3407173 to get through to a woman who took my call

I asked if the coating could be removed after or before it was sold to me and was told no it cant. Maybe they will listen if everyone stops buying them and suggesting none antiglare (vaseline smear look)
 
Guest2 said:
I asked if the coating could be removed after or before it was sold to me and was told no it cant.
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It can be done if you don't mind taking some unusual measures, risk damaging the screen and voiding the warranty.

I'm not encouraging or recommending that any one do this.

If anyone wishes to try this you do it at your own risk.

EASY ANTIGLARE REMOVAL STEPS

my U2711 AG Coating MOD

Glossy U2711 Mod

If you read the whole of the second and third threads you'll see how it is possible to damage the monitor.

And here's a comparison of the Apple with the Dell after the coating was removed.

 
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Guest2 said:
Maybe they will listen if everyone stops buying them and suggesting none antiglare (vaseline smear look)
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I like your description of vaseline smearing. When I first started using LCD monitors (and was very much use to the glass of CRTs) I used to continuously clean them thinking they were dirty - not realising it's just the anti-glare surface. I am currently reviewing the U2412M for Dell and I am going to speak to them about the issues raised here. This will be done through their PR agency who are basically a subdivision of the company themselves and are very helpful - they love feedback such as this and they take 'official' reviews of their products very seriously. Now I can't say this will be influential at all to such a large company but the 'reach' of our reviews is growing all the time and Dell's PR people are very much aware of this.
 
Surveyor said:
It can be done if you don't mind taking some unusual measures, risk damaging the screen and voiding the warranty.

I'm not encouraging or recommending that any one do this.

If anyone wishes to try this you do it at your own risk.

EASY ANTIGLARE REMOVAL STEPS

my U2711 AG Coating MOD

Glossy U2711 Mod

If you read the whole of the second and third threads you'll see how it is possible to damage the monitor.

And here's a comparison of the Apple with the Dell after the coating was removed.

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Thakns for that.

I've seen a number of reviews and guides on how it can be removed. I wanted to know if Dell would remove it themselves (or not put it on in the first place) then it would still be good for warranty and there would be no risk of me breaking a ~£650 monitor
 
Is a glossy screen one without antiglare and a matte on is with antiglare :confused:

Also, whats the monitors that are 'glass' isnt that just the bezel around the outside.

Surely, it doesnt matter what thats made of. As long as the screen that you look at look great then the bezel can be made of balsa wood for all i care
 
Guest2 said:
Is a glossy screen one without antiglare and a matte on is with antiglare :confused:

Also, whats the monitors that are 'glass' isnt that just the bezel around the outside.

Surely, it doesnt matter what thats made of. As long as the screen that you look at look great then the bezel can be made of balsa wood for all i care
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When people refer to glossy screens they are technically referring to a monitor with a smooth outer polarising layer (often one treated to be 'anti-reflective', hence the alternative term) rather than a roughened one (matte or anti-glare surface). Manufacturers tend to confuse things by referring to the bezel as 'gloss' but this is something else and not what is being discussed here.
 
Surveyor said:
It can be done if you don't mind taking some unusual measures, risk damaging the screen and voiding the warranty.

I'm not encouraging or recommending that any one do this.

If anyone wishes to try this you do it at your own risk.

EASY ANTIGLARE REMOVAL STEPS

my U2711 AG Coating MOD

Glossy U2711 Mod

If you read the whole of the second and third threads you'll see how it is possible to damage the monitor.

And here's a comparison of the Apple with the Dell after the coating was removed.

Click to expand...

its not having the balls for it, to me its the lack of warranty after, damn you dell, now ive seen what this monitor has to offer!
 
I have an HP 2310ti and it is pretty damn glossy....

Now don't get me wrong, it's absolutely gorgeous, with brilliant colours (I have a slightly older HP 19" next to it and the colour difference between the two is staggering (even with the same image). Saying that, the reflections are a pain in the butt, I absolutely loathe them...

kd
 
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