So what you're looking for is a cheap workstaion card, nothing to do with gaming?
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Why is everyone hating on Intel ARC so much?
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So what you're looking for is a cheap workstaion card, nothing to do with gaming?
I think it is a stretch to say everything I said has no relevance to gaming.
RDNA 3 has addressed almost every point and I consider it better for gamers too.
Well its slower in most RT games, check the most recent HUB A770 comparison video.
AI/ML, Stable Diffusion. (Not gaming)
AV1 (Not gaming)
DP 2.0 (ok i mean, sure)
+4GB of Ram, that's only going to matter in workstation tasks.
The performance of the 6700XT is higher, even at 4K.
The A770 uses more power.
AI/ML, Stable Diffusion. (Not gaming)
AV1 (Not gaming)
DP 2.0 (ok i mean, sure)
+4GB of Ram, that's only going to matter in workstation tasks.
The performance of the 6700XT is higher, even at 4K.
The A770 uses more power.
I have always felt that the ARC A750/A770 was a real world BETA test for there hardware and driver support, rather than a serious assault on AMD and Nvidia, as well as to get a foot in the door, for name recognition and reputation.
Battlemage I believe will be there serious attempt to break into the Discreate GPU market, and to gain serious market share, using the name recoginion the A750/A770, have gained as well as the reputaion for continual improvements, on the driver front, to perfomance.
If Battlemage rumours live up to relaity, and it has 4080/7900XT or even 4070 Ti, levels of performance at around £600, and good release drivers, then they may succeed.
Battlemage I believe will be there serious attempt to break into the Discreate GPU market, and to gain serious market share, using the name recoginion the A750/A770, have gained as well as the reputaion for continual improvements, on the driver front, to perfomance.
If Battlemage rumours live up to relaity, and it has 4080/7900XT or even 4070 Ti, levels of performance at around £600, and good release drivers, then they may succeed.
I agree.
Battlemage will need to be at least £100 cheaper - and probably nearer £200 cheaper - than the equivalent Nvidia card.
As is often the case, what the price should be and will be, often disappoint.
I feel given current market pricing, £600 is probably closer to the mark than £500, as it would be half the price of a 4080 and £150 less than the 4070 Ti/7900XT.
If the performance is there and most importantly a decent driver then many would see £600 as a bargain, which just reflects the sorry state of the GPU pricing.
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Intel haven't built enough credit in the bank yet as a graphics option.
The average Joe looking for a new GPU probably doesn't even know that Intel make discreet cards.
The average Joe looking for a new GPU probably doesn't even know that Intel make discreet cards.
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Discreet? Hehehe! This has not been helped by the likes of Hardware Unboxed ignoring them.
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Oops spelling mistake "discrete".
Battlemage is already known to be a 225W or lower SKU, per Intel's own roadmap. Unless they've somehow greatly leapfrogged both AMD and Nvidia in terms of power efficiency, we already roughly know its potential. Expecting it to compete with a 4080 is unrealistic, and unfairly so since Intel have never claimed to be aiming that high up the stack. Their stated intent is to target the mid-range. It's just unfortunate that their release schedule is so out of sync with AMD/Nvidia that their product's going to arrive the better part of a year late to the party.
The ASRock model of the A770 was available for £191 for the past five days, brand new from a competitor via Ebay. It was posted on the big deals site and such. They sold exactly 13 of them during that time. Even at under £200 people seem pretty reluctant to bite.
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I'm waiting for the next gen before making a decision. By then our current Graphics cards (Turing 2070s and 2080Ti) will be thoroughly outdated, and I'd *really* like to see some more competition in this sector.
With the amount of money and chip expertise at intel, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to be very competitive.
The problem for them is that like AMD they seem to have taken a decision that they can't or won't compete at the high/halo end of the market, and unfortunately that's where a lot of the marketing comes in - fastest card in the world man! Doesn't matter that you need to buy a 10kW generator to run it, because most people aren't buying that one anyway, they're buying mid-market. But even if your mid-market offering is better than the midmarket offering from the competition, without that halo product it won't matter. Gotta get that halo product out and then sell everything else by association with the brand.
With the amount of money and chip expertise at intel, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to be very competitive.
The problem for them is that like AMD they seem to have taken a decision that they can't or won't compete at the high/halo end of the market, and unfortunately that's where a lot of the marketing comes in - fastest card in the world man! Doesn't matter that you need to buy a 10kW generator to run it, because most people aren't buying that one anyway, they're buying mid-market. But even if your mid-market offering is better than the midmarket offering from the competition, without that halo product it won't matter. Gotta get that halo product out and then sell everything else by association with the brand.
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