Why is Vista better than XP

I agree, Vista does a lot of things a hell of a lot better than XP but it does need time for hardware and software manufacturers to play catch up. Vista also has a few minor niggles that will be patched/updated by Microsoft over time whereas XP is pretty much patched up to the eyeballs now.

So basically, if you like to have the latest and greatest then Vista is great, I no longer have XP on my machine at all and that suits me fine. All the programs pretty much work 100% although I do get occasional hiccups from the software.

If you have an older machine and just like to use your applications, wait for 6 months and have a 99% hassle free Vista!

Or, dual boot! Considering most people will have to buy it in the end anyway, might as well buy it now and decide for yourself what you're going to do.
 
What do I win... I can provide a 100 reasons why Vista is better than XP, courtesy of Microsoft.

Microsoft said:
1. It makes using your PC a breeze

Windows Vista features a breakthrough design and easy-to-use organizational tools that make it simpler to get things done and get on with life! Find what you need instantly, on your PC or on the web, with Instant Search. Bring more clarity to your tasks with the spectacular Windows Aero user experience and Windows Flip 3D, allowing you to see everything you're working on at a glance.
Microsoft said:
2. Because all of your music is just a remote control click away

Navigate and play your music collection with just the click of a remote control! Windows Media Center and a compatible remote control let you quickly search and select tracks visually by album art, or by artist, album title, song, year, or genre. Share your Media Center screen and remote and give everyone the chance to mix and play their favorites.
Microsoft said:
3. It's the safest version of Windows ever

Windows Vista provides better protection for your PC, your personal information, and your family than any previous version of Windows—with new security tools like Windows Defender, anti-spam and phishing filters, and Parental Controls. Automatic backups, Performance Self-Tuning, and built-in diagnostics help you keep your data protected and your PC running smoothly.
Microsoft said:
4. See your world in a whole new light

The breakthrough design of the Windows AeroA user interface brings new clarity to your PC experience. With spectacular visual effects, like translucent glass-like menu bars that let you see behind your application window, you're one click away from everything you're working with.
Microsoft said:
5. It can find your stuff

All-new search and organization tools in Windows Vista will help you quickly find what you need on your hard drive or on the web. Instantly find and launch a document, photo, e-mail, song, video, file, or program

See the remaining 95 reasons here
 
the-void said:
What do I win... I can provide a 100 reasons why Vista is better than XP, courtesy of Microsoft.







See the remaining 95 reasons here
Tell me 100 reasons that can be found after a day of using Vista, and I'll give you a cookie.

It's fine reading what the differences are, but to actually notice 100 of them would impress me.
 
snowdog said:
now all the disadvantages:

You cant change hardware
its 16 gb
its expensive as hell
has all kinds of poor drivers atm (yes i know, give it time, not ms fault, but still a disadvantage at the moment)
big system specs, people with old pc's are ******.
I understand i dont have full admin controll anymore, some kind of anti worm protection or something??

Not wishing to start a bun-fight here but all your 'reasons' are not true!

You cant change hardware - You can change any piece of hardware if you buy the retail version. If you buy OEM you can't change the motherboard, just like with XP.

its 16 gb - it's what?

has all kinds of poor drivers atm (yes i know, give it time, not ms fault, but still a disadvantage at the moment) - OK well, you admitted this was a flimsy argument

big system specs, people with old pc's are ******. It's a NEXT GENERATION OPERATING SYSTEM FFS. Anyway, Even if you have a P4 and 512MB RAM and a 9800 Pro you should still be able to run it with few problems.
 
Rebelius said:
I answered the question at hand "Why is Vista better than XP"

not why is vista better than XP+photoshop+PowerDVD+Nero+dualbootwithlinux

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XP = Lite installation tbh. Vista = bloatware.

you can easily find DVD burning software for free on the web, and WMC for playing DVD's etc with free codec packs.

XP is snappier, faster, less of a resource hog...
 
"Originally Posted by Rebelius
some things i like about vista from using it for a few days

vista can play dvds
powerdvd does too :P - This costs more
vista can burn dvds
Nero can too - This costs more - Harder to use
vista can has a sidebar which could have some really cool tools in the future
Desktop sidebar program for winxp, been around ages before vista was out
vista looks better
no reason to pay €€€/$$$/£££ for
vista loads programs faster
one good point, however i dont think this applies to people with 256 mb or 512 mb ram
vista has a cool fast-search tool
never heard of this , ill google in a sec
vista's basic photo viewer/browser thing can get rid of red-eye and adjust brightness/contrast/colour (no resize though)
photoshop is better - This costs more - Harder to use
vista has mahjong titans
ehhh?
media player 11 looks better on the toolbar than on the XP one
''looks better'' again something that really isnt worth the money..."

so when you take into account using XP and buying new software to do what vista does out of the box for the basic home users its a no brainer..
 
Personally I like it cause it looks better. It looks cool, actually. Call me superficial, but I like things to look better - like my car, my apartment, my girfriends, even myself :p And don't tell me you don't!!

I pay money to make all my stuff look better, so why not pay for software that looks better. Its very important, you know.
 
bfar said:
Personally I like it cause it looks better. It looks cool, actually. Call me superficial, but I like things to look better - like my car, my apartment, my girfriends, even myself :p And don't tell me you don't!!

I like it because it looks better too - very swish. Yes, this goes for gfs too. Never deviate from the gold standard.
 
I've generally given up on these threads to be honest.
I use Vista Ultimate 64 and only Vista Ultimate 64.
Most of these threads seem to be a way of justifying people's own decision and to be honest there really is no need.

Being an official MS Beta tester I've been using various beta versions of Vista a lot longer than most.
I knew what the OS was going to deliver and I was impressed.
It has delivered what it promised and I'm more than happy to have spent the money on a second copy for my wife's machine as well.

For those that like Vista - go for it.
The one argument I will keep on defending is the price.
If I see one more "It's so expensive" post I will scream - you don't have to own Vista Ultimate.
Look at all of the versions available to you - the very cheapest will be fine for many and the next one up covers most other people.
If you want to stay with XP then fine, it's your call.
However don't moan once the DirextX 10 games start to make an appearance.
 
Rebelius said:
vista can play dvds

So can *every* operating system. Even the free ones.

Rebelius said:
vista can burn dvds

So can *every* operating system. Even the free ones.

Rebelius said:
vista can has a sidebar which could have some really cool tools in the future

So can *every* operating system. Even the free ones.

Rebelius said:
vista looks better

Subjective. What looks better to you looks like trash to me, and expensive trash at that. Again, you can modify the appearance of nearly *every* operating system. EVEN THE FREE ONES.

Rebelius said:
vista loads programs faster

Totally, totally subjective. One program may load faster, bottlenecks on your PC may have been fixed, maybe your PC is just not yet loaded with spyware. Wait a few weeks and come back.

Rebelius said:
vista has a cool fast-search tool

So has *every* operating system. As an Operating System, anything can be installed, including fast search tools. Even the free ones!

Rebelius said:
vista's basic photo viewer/browser thing can get rid of red-eye and adjust brightness/contrast/colour

Image editing is a complex process and I would use a decent piece of software to do it. Even the Gimp is better than the one built into any operating system. And - its free!

Rebelius said:
vista has mahjong titans

Its a mahjong game, free bundled with the operating system. If you really wanted, you could get it for XP or any other free operating system.

Rebelius said:
media player 11 looks better on the toolbar than on the XP one

Media player is, and has been for about 5-10 versions, bloatware DRM infested trash. There are a huge number of better products out there - mostly free. My personal recommendation is VLC player (http://www.videolan.org/)

You haven't even made any suggestions as to why people should upgrade at all yet, all of what you have suggested so far is all in XP.

Nothing you have said so far is not free and perfectly legal already on the internet in open source software.
 
snowdog said:
now all the disadvantages:

You cant change hardware You can change all you like on the retail copies
its 16 gb
its expensive as hell so are the full retail copies of Xp
has all kinds of poor drivers atm (yes i know, give it time, not ms fault, but still a disadvantage at the moment)
big system specs, people with old pc's are ******. so were people with Pentium 133s and 64mb of RAm when XP came out, its called progress[
I understand i dont have full admin controll anymore, some kind of anti worm protection or something??You understand wrong. When logged in as admin, you get prompted if you want to do things. You can still do them, but it checks if you meant to do it or not. But this can be turned off, as easy as the windows inbuilt firewall can.
 
if you want to buy xp, linux or whatever and modify it to hell to be like vista then be my guest BUT most people will not know how to get VLC, or even attempt using photoshop. Vista is a nice, neat, widely used and supported package, which 99% of people will be using as standard. Most people want something to look good which is what vista and media centre achieve, they wont know how to download a skinning package etc...

and wheather you like it or not its going to get rammed down our throats sooner or later anyway, so if you want people, keep running your modified windows 95 on your core2 and 8800:D i'll have the latest OS thanks;)
 
Bobbler said:
Search is outstanding. Its so quick and I like it.


While I would like to agree with you about search, it couldnt find a an album a few sub folders in on a cd. Apart from that its ok.
 
LanceCrossfire said:
if you want to buy xp, linux or whatever and modify it to hell to be like vista then be my guest BUT most people will not know how to get VLC, or even attempt using photoshop. Vista is a nice, neat, widely used and supported package, which 99% of people will be using as standard. Most people want something to look good which is what vista and media centre achieve, they wont know how to download a skinning package etc...

So what you are saying is, we should ditch all the rest of the software in the world, and only use microsoft-based OS packages, because people are too lazy or ignorant to get past stage 1 basic computer use?

That is a very, very dangerous point of view. The homogenous of Windows Operating systems is seen as a threat to national security in the US, and for good reason. By putting all your eggs in one basket, you are basically hoping this one company, which is for profit, not for science, altruism or any other noble aim, going to solve all of your problems in computing.

Well, when the next virus X comes out and it wipes out 99% of the worlds' PC, you will be the first one to bleat and complain that "Microsoft didn't do enough", well guess what. YOU didn't do enough, all you did was throw money at a "problem" (namely, computing) and hope it went away.

Homogeneity does not foster creativity, in fact you *rely* on the other operating systems to even give competition to MS, despite the fact that you hate Windows - because, at the end of the day, if tomorrow Microsoft decided to put prices up by £800 you would have *no* say in the matter, and would be FORCED to buy or lose out.

There is a good reason why most of the major governments in the world are switching to linux and trying to distance themselves from Microsoft.
 
bfar said:
It looks better. Buy it.

My pen looks better than your pen. Buy it. But you can only use my pen on my paper, which you also have to buy, and using my ink, which you have to buy. And if the paper becomes smudged with ink, not only do you have to buy new paper, but if it isn't the same type of paper that you originally used, you have to buy a new pen.
And hope to god there is no bacteria that eats the type of ink that my pens use, the only type of ink it uses, because if it does, there IS no more ink.

And in five years time, despite the fact that your pen and paper still work perfectly fine, you will be required to replace it all. Because we will stop providing you with ink for your current pen so you will no longer be able to use it.
 
wannabedamned said:
Vista is the best operating system for new computers, Old computers would be better sticking with XP.

Vista is new and has it's problems, ie, memory munching! But the next Service Pack Is going to be fixing that problem.
Not true. Service packs only fix bugs, not planned design decisions. "Memory munching" or, as most people call it, Superfetch, is one of the key memory management improvements to the NT 6.0 kernel.
 
Vista has a secure kernel along with strong DRM, this will allow Vista to become a portal for many services that will "NEVER" come to an OS that doesn't have this feature. Now MS has come under fire for DRM but it was necessity brought about by the Music/Film industry, no DRM no content!

Also DX10 will be great for PC gaming once the developers catch up.

Live is coming to the PC allowing you to play games against the Xbox 360.

IPTV (OK only for the 360 ATM but it's bound to come to the PC)

To be honest there is loads of cool stuff ;)

HEADRAT
 
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