Why Mac over pc

eatcustard · 4 Mar 2013 at 15:07

I can look at the "special" sites without getting a virus*

Macs are much easier to use, less liable to crash, and they look nice, no need for stupid watercooling and fancy lights.

* never had one in 26 years of using Macs

Spit · 4 Mar 2013 at 15:26

PardonTheWait said:
On the subject actually, something last night I thought was good. I don't make enough use of the extra desktops, and the discussion just above made me go out of my way to start using them.

It reminded me that I never use the dashboard, so I had a look to see if you can get rid. One copy & pasted terminal command later, and it's gone.

I like stuff like that - there's a lot of times where you can just go and find a terminal command and do quite major things with ease, even though they're not a 'standard' option, and that's the beauty of it being a simple but fully featured OS on top of quite a powerful and flexible back end that you can use when you need to.

Nice, just got rid of the dashboard as well! Did not realise you could do that.

Syther101 · 4 Mar 2013 at 16:04

PardonTheWait said:
On the subject actually, something last night I thought was good. I don't make enough use of the extra desktops, and the discussion just above made me go out of my way to start using them.

It reminded me that I never use the dashboard, so I had a look to see if you can get rid. One copy & pasted terminal command later, and it's gone.

I like stuff like that - there's a lot of times where you can just go and find a terminal command and do quite major things with ease, even though they're not a 'standard' option, and that's the beauty of it being a simple but fully featured OS on top of quite a powerful and flexible back end that you can use when you need to.

There is also an option in preferences under Mission Control to hide the dashboard from the desktop spaces instead

PardonTheWait · 4 Mar 2013 at 16:14

Syther101 said:
There is also an option in preferences under Mission Control to hide the dashboard from the desktop spaces instead

Ooh, that's new. It's still there though, I think when you kill it with the terminal it's not there at all.

When you open Dashboard without it as a space, it overlays over your desktop, didn't used to do that. Quite nice.

It's still rubbish though and I don't want it

pokerking · 4 Mar 2013 at 19:06

eatcustard said:
I can look at the "special" sites without getting a virus*

Macs are much easier to use, less liable to crash, and they look nice, no need for stupid watercooling and fancy lights.

* never had one in 26 years of using Macs

So can most windows users with an AV programme installed. My dads MBP tends to be beach balling quite a lot more so than my Windows 8 machine. Not had a single crash since the 98 days, and that was due to RAM. More often than not its bad hardware that causes systems to crash not on an OS level.

Watercooling and fancy lights? Well that is more the modding scene, can you do this to a Mac system? Thought not. People who want to use there creative side can do so with the vast amount of parts available to build from,

I have had numerous Mac's and a very expensive MPB. W8 is a much more enjoyable OS to use, for me.

Raymond Lin · 4 Mar 2013 at 19:22

^^^ that requires time, effort, research, knowledge, whether it is in good AV software or selecting the good hardware for stabliblty, quiet operation or performance, a mac does all that out of the box.

If it takes a day's reading and research to find the best hardware and software for a PC and then another day to build...it would actually cost me more to get a PC then buy a mac. As the time spent on that I could be working and making money instead. I don't buy the cost argument personally, not in my circumstances. It's more economical to pay someone to do the leg work and deliver a working machine on my doorstep.

pokerking · 4 Mar 2013 at 19:37

Raymond Lin said:
^^^ that requires time, effort, research, knowledge, whether it is in good AV software or selecting the good hardware for stabliblty, quiet operation or performance, a mac does all that out of the box.

If it takes a day's reading and research to find the best hardware and software for a PC and then another day to build...it would actually cost me more to get a PC then buy a mac. As the time spent on that I could be working and making money instead. I don't buy the cost argument personally, not in my circumstances. It's more economical to pay someone to do the leg work and deliver a working machine on my doorstep.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Apples-own-Macs-hit-by-virus/tabid/412/articleID/287480/Default.aspx

I could post numerous links showing MACs do have there flaws and are vulnerable to viruses.

Microsoft Windows is used by a lot more people than the Apple Mac OS. Because more people use Microsoft Windows, it is a much better target and makes it easier for viruses to spread.
3.Most of the computer virus writers are more familiar with the IBM platform and Microsoft Windows, which means its easier for them create a virus for that platform.
4.Many of the tools, scripts, and code used to create viruses or other malware are designed for Microsoft Windows

From a fresh install of W8 it is secure, windows defender gets installed by default and is turned on from the start. Yes you can pay for more expensive AV software, but for me it has been more than good enough.

Sorry but it would only take half an hour to put a shopping list together that would be of equal performance to a mac and cost less, a couple of hours max to build the thing. It does not take hours and days to do this. You can buy complete built systems too such as what OC sell. How is any different from buying a mac? I don't buy that one.

Each to there own and all that

Me personally, owing a mac is a nice experience but I get much more productivity using a Windows based environment. Plus I can upgrade easily without having to spend a small fortune.

Raymond Lin · 4 Mar 2013 at 20:52

^ how do up upgrade a Pentium 4 northwood machine with AGP card?

That was my last windows machine.

As for Mac virus, I never said there are nine, however in almost 4 years of use, without any AV software, I have been fine. I was paying £20 a year subscription on NOD32 whilst on windows. That is £80 saved right there.

I'm not saying one is better than another, I am merely pointing out it is not as black and white as some people make it out to be, take each person's circumstances into account, for me, a windows machine will cost more in time and money to build, run and maintain.

pokerking · 4 Mar 2013 at 21:06

Raymond Lin said:
^ how do up upgrade a Pentium 4 northwood machine with AGP card?

That was my last windows machine.

As for Mac virus, I never said there are nine, however in almost 4 years of use, without any AV software, I have been fine. I was paying £20 a year subscription on NOD32 whilst on windows. That is £80 saved right there.

I'm not saying one is better than another, I am merely pointing out it is not as black and white as some people make it out to be, take each person's circumstances into account, for me, a windows machine will cost more in time and money to build, run and maintain.

Me too, it is down to what people prefer, I have no problem with mac OSX and can actually use the OS! Rather than these Windows users having a little play then say its rubbish. It is a very good OS, I find Windows for me a little easier and more productive to use.

For you a mac seems the best option

But you don't need to spend £80 on a piece of AV software. Unless you actually try and find viruses to install and download, a free piece of software from Microsoft bundled within Windows is more than enough.

Tute · 4 Mar 2013 at 22:49

I have a MacBook, at the time there was nothing Windows flavoured that could match it's performance for the battery life.

If I was getting another laptop it would be Apple again.

ThePirateHulk · 5 Mar 2013 at 03:23

Some of OSX is fine but I hate the finder with a passion. It is wall past its sell by date.

Syther101 · 5 Mar 2013 at 10:29

ThePirateHulk said:
Some of OSX is fine but I hate the finder with a passion. It is wall past its sell by date.

Have you tried XtraFinder. It gives you a number of little tweaks to finder that improve it a a lot. That being said it still doesn't compare to Explorer

Adrianr · 5 Mar 2013 at 10:48

Raymond Lin said:
^ how do up upgrade a Pentium 4 northwood machine with AGP card?

That was my last windows machine.

As for Mac virus, I never said there are nine, however in almost 4 years of use, without any AV software, I have been fine. I was paying £20 a year subscription on NOD32 whilst on windows. That is £80 saved right there.

I'm not saying one is better than another, I am merely pointing out it is not as black and white as some people make it out to be, take each person's circumstances into account, for me, a windows machine will cost more in time and money to build, run and maintain.

You think you've been fine.. How can you tell without any AV software?

sbi5ar · 5 Mar 2013 at 11:10

ThePirateHulk said:
Some of OSX is fine but I hate the finder with a passion. It is wall past its sell by date.

Syther101 said:
Have you tried XtraFinder. It gives you a number of little tweaks to finder that improve it a a lot. That being said it still doesn't compare to Explorer

Whats so bad with finder? :confused:

(this is a genuine question)

I've never had any problems with it.

ThePirateHulk · 5 Mar 2013 at 23:41

sbi5ar said:
Whats so bad with finder? (this is a genuine question)

I've never had any problems with it.

I just find it frustrating to use. It's not a specific problem I can put my finger on. I guess using Explorer/File Manager for so long has indoctrinated me into wanting to see everything in a simple tree view.

Beerbaron · 8 Mar 2013 at 15:58

Shouldn't the title of the thread be why mac over another OS. mac = pc

KraniX · 9 Mar 2013 at 14:42

Adrianr said:
You think you've been fine.. How can you tell without any AV software?

Indeed, I've heard the same "I've never had a virus" from a lot of Windows users too. Not every virus/malware takes over your browser in a really obvious way or flashes VIRUS on the screen in cyan and magenta, it's the ones sitting behind logging all your data and passwords which you don't notice that you need to be careful of.

I think we all need to be very careful these days irrespective of platform, and Flash and Java are a right royal pain on all systems! I uninstalled Flash as there isn't anything I use on my main desktop that requires it, it's mostly used by rubbish ads which I block anyway. I'd dump Java too if it wasn't for Salesforce.com requiring it.

Unfortunately HTML 5 isn't the godsend some think, it has it's only problems but I'd be quite happy to be rid of anything touched by Adobe as a start.

Mr-White · 9 Mar 2013 at 16:00

Beerbaron said:
Shouldn't the title of the thread be why mac over another OS. mac = pc

It's in the hardware forum so o/s should be irreverent.

I'm bored of looking at macs, why are their range of cases so limited ?

MW